Cristiano Ronaldo - v1

Cruijffista

SOY ANTIMADRIDISTA
LFP president Javier Tebas with his family after watching a RM game at the Bernabeu.

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One of his recent quotes:

"I like the fact that Cristiano said sorry, and this needs to be appreciated"


But no, only coincidences, good fortune, referee incompetence and baseless slanders......

Wow just wow.

I can't wait for the day Barca can leave La Liga for good. I'd welcome Ligue 1 with open arms. Enough is enough.
 

Ini8

¡Gr?*cies Xavi!
LFP president Javier Tebas with his family after watching a RM game at the Bernabeu.

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One of his recent quotes:

"I like the fact that Cristiano said sorry, and this needs to be appreciated"


But no, only coincidences, good fortune, referee incompetence and baseless slanders......

Incredible.
 

frog-fcb

Senior Member
LFP president Javier Tebas with his family after watching a RM game at the Bernabeu.

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One of his recent quotes:

"I like the fact that Cristiano said sorry, and this needs to be appreciated"


But no, only coincidences, good fortune, referee incompetence and baseless slanders......

Suarez said sorry (eventually) to for his repeat offence
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
It's a good question. Most teams have no money or power, and right now our president is only worried about the elections. rm and florentino also have a lot of power and influence, not only with lfp, but also fifa. And most of the spanish media is pro-rm. All this corruption will take a while to be erradicated.

I still think that it is a political question, and nothing can be done.
Again, I am from Croatia, and until 1991' Croatia was a part of former Yugoslavia with Slovenia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro and Macedonia.

When in 1990 Croatia started indenpendence talks, referees in Yugoslavia football league were in favor of pro-Serbian clubs.
Because Croatia wanted to get away from Yugoslavia, and Serbia wanted to stay. (Serbia was Yugoslavia, more or less)

So, Croatia and clubs from Croatia were something like "bad guys" because we didn't want to stay in Yugoslavia anymore.
So, referees were against Dinamo Zagreb, for example.
Also, teams who shared similar political views as Serbian clubs, were playing "hard" against Croatian clubs, and they played "soft" against Serbian clubs.

Imo, Catalonia and Spain share the same story.
Catalonia wants independence and they are "bad guys", let's say it that way (in the eyes of Spanish citizens). Again, I am not saying that Catalans are ACTUALLY bad guys (since my country, Croatia, did the same thing), but in the eyes of Spain they are=a bad guys.

This leads to a few things:
1. Spanish federation will always be on the side of Madrid (as a pro-Spanish team), and against Barca (independence team)
= that is happening, isn't it?
2. referees will act the same
= that is happening, isn't it?
-- all these penalties for Madrid since always
-- and letting a rough play against Barca's players
3. but also, imo, a part of La liga teams will play "harder" against Barca and "softer" against Real
-- do you have that feeling sometimes?

Imo, that happened 100s of times in other countries who wanted the independence.
So, it is probably hard to understand for someone whose country don't have similar political problems.

In the end, Barca needs to be 10-20% better on the field than Real Madrid to actually win a championship.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Corruption is never a joke. But I don't expect you to not be biased. You support rm, after all. But it is a blatant case of corruption. This is not even the 1st time your club was favoured by lfp this season. You're probably used to it and thinks it's normal. I'm yet to find a rm fan who admits their club is heavily favored by lfp and rfef. One reason they don't change the rule to accept footage is exactly that situations like cr's can happen.

And you say you want proof... not long ago a former ref came forward and sair most lfp ref are madridistas and pro-rm. And it's not just the case of flo paying anyone, the system is rigged to favor rm every way they can. More examples are the invention of a "mvp" award to cr in 2013, when Messi had won the best player award, voted by players. And it goes on. But keep on ignoring the reality.

And which post? The one you said it's all good because cr apologized on twitter? :lol:

Define normal. It is normal that top clubs get bigger treatment to stay marketable. It's not the UK, or the NBA, it's a Spanish dinosaur world where people need no replays and footage, because they don't understand its importance. I'm all up for changing it. Doesn't change the fact that your claims are completely baseless, other than when you're saying RFEF are idiots (which is widely known).

No one is providing viable proof. Which ref came forward? Source? I'd wager a random sensationalist who doesn't even have anything other than his statements. If there is a corruption scandal, there are investigations kickstarted by the opposing parties. I didn't see anything incriminating Floro coming to the light on their part for 15 YEARS, during his tenures. Calderon's idiocy and rigging antics got exposed after 2 years in comparison.

And no, sent 25th. Can't make it any easier for you even though I thought it was originally very easy to find. Apparently our good, gracious and omnipotent mod likes to be a bit of a spin doctor too.

PS: LOL Sumlit, so RM are still at fault for that old bag or his sons/relatives being Real supporters? :lol:
 
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Flavia

Guest
Define normal. It is normal that top clubs get bigger treatment to stay marketable. It's not the UK, or the NBA, it's a Spanish dinosaur world where people need no replays and footage, because they don't understand its importance. I'm all up for changing it. Doesn't change the fact that your claims are completely baseless, other than when you're saying RFEF are idiots (which is widely known).

No one is providing viable proof. Which ref came forward? Source? I'd wager a random sensationalist who doesn't even have anything other than his statements. If there is a corruption scandal, there are investigations kickstarted by the opposing parties. I didn't see anything incriminating Floro coming to the light on their part for 15 YEARS, during his tenures. Calderon's idiocy and rigging antics got exposed after 2 years in comparison.

And no, sent 25th. Can't make it any easier for you even though I thought it was originally very easy to find. Apparently our good, gracious and omnipotent mod likes to be a bit of a spin doctor too.

PS: LOL Sumlit, so RM are still at fault for that old bag or his sons/relatives being Real supporters? :lol:

Source: http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/rea...oria-los-arbitros-son-del-real-madrid-3058190

Keep denying the obvious. My comments are just "baseless" if you're blind. Just the amount of irregular penalties you lot get are proof enough. And all the special treatment is also obvious. Why no comments on the made up mvp award to make cr happy in 2013? Messi won la liga, pichichi and best player. The "mvp award" never existed before, and what a coincidence, there wasn't one last year. Where rm won most awards, despite atletico winning the league.

And as if perez will let anything against him come to light... But google perez and acs to see some interesting news. You'll say it's all lies, ofc.
 

dakt

Active member
I love how RM supporters are justifying Ronaldo...everything falls to relativism and in that context they may just as well defend Hitler.
 

raskolnikov

Well-known member
I love how RM supporters are justifying Ronaldo...everything falls to relativism and in that context they may just as well defend Hitler.

Admitting you are a gloryhunter/fanboy that supports the cancer of la liga/the football world might be too much for them to admit.
 
@Wolfe
isn't it odd that while you say it is normal for big clubs (assuming RM is way bigger than FCB, which is already a mistake) to be favored in Spain's "dinosaur" world, you also expect investigations and inquiries to follow through ?
 
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El Gato

Villarato!
I swear, every time I ask anyone for a credible source they come up with something like Marca/AS/El Mundo/SPORT :lol: I thought every university or a college teaches some sort of research techniques? You didn't even bother listening to your own source since he said "the referees are either from Madrid or Barcelona" and if anything he's basically confirming what I'm saying, that they swing towards top teams. He's just highlighting the gap between the top and the rest due to popularity of the winners. Same interview just not spun by a Catalan source :lol: - http://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/99771-iturralde-mayoria-arbitros-son-real-madrid/

Your comments are baseless, because your arguments are on the level of the forum basically counting up all the mistakes refs make in favor of Madrid while disregarding every other factor in the equation as well as basically saying the ref mistakes are intentional :lol:

Thing is, you're missing the point entirely. I've not once it's not the truth. I don't know what the truth is, neither do any of you. It's behind closed doors and you just interpret what comes out on Twitter, Marca and AS and then interpret. What kind of retarded method is that? Yeah, go on barcastuff if you want meaningful stats... I've not once said there is no bias. Quite the opposite. There probably is bias towards the top of the league, because of popularity. And nor do I say anyone is lying, but when you bring up an isolated incident not backed up by anyone else, not investigated by someone on the inside, no scandals are out for god knows how many years... What else do you say about that other than "unlikely"?

You care about that MVP shit? You care? Do you need an award to tell you or anyone else whether a player is worthy the title? This drivel along with the BdO talk is so unbearable every year..

I'll see to the Perez and ACS stuff later. Spent too much time on writing this post anyway.

@up
No, to me it's not odd, because it's obvious when things are shit. It's normal for Spain and it's not likely to change in the near future so it's defined as "norm". Refs like Undiano get to be the main judge in the biggest games of this league and make it an absolute waste every time. I want it to be better, more like NBA style, but not entirely because some things are wrong with their system too, but at least they allow common sense to prevail there.
 
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Flavia

Guest
I swear, every time I ask anyone for a credible source they come up with something like Marca/AS/El Mundo/SPORT :lol: I thought every university or a college teaches some sort of research techniques? You didn't even bother listening to your own source since he said "the referees are either from Madrid or Barcelona" and if anything he's basically confirming what I'm saying, that they swing towards top teams. He's just highlighting the gap between the top and the rest due to popularity of the winners. Same interview just not spun by a Catalan source :lol: - http://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/99771-iturralde-mayoria-arbitros-son-real-madrid/

Your comments are baseless, because your arguments are on the level of the forum basically counting up all the mistakes refs make in favor of Madrid while disregarding every other factor in the equation as well as basically saying the ref mistakes are intentional :lol:

Thing is, you're missing the point entirely. I've not once it's not the truth. I don't know what the truth is, neither do any of you. It's behind closed doors and you just interpret what comes out on Twitter, Marca and AS and then interpret. What kind of retarded method is that? Yeah, go on barcastuff if you want meaningful stats... I've not once said there is no bias. Quite the opposite. There probably is bias towards the top of the league, because of popularity. And nor do I say anyone is lying, but when you bring up an isolated incident not backed up by anyone else, not investigated by someone on the inside, no scandals are out for god knows how many years... What else do you say about that other than "unlikely"?

You care about that MVP shit? Do you need an award to tell you or anyone else whether a player is worthy the title? This drivel along with the BdO talk is so unbearable every year..

I'll see to the Perez and ACS stuff later. Spent too much time on writing this post anyway.

"Entonces, hay muchos árbitros que son del Real Madrid y la mayoría son del Real Madrid", explicó Iturralde.

Guess you missed this part. And my opinion is not based on twitter, or marca, or md. I follow la liga for a very long time. Over 10 years. Enough to realize what goes on in there. And it's always the same.

And again, you missed the point ENTIRELY. I don't care about the mvp award. But the fact it was created by lfp to please a rm player is very telling. In what world would they do that for a Barça player.

Anyway, keep up your childish insults. I see, as you can't make a convincing point, you're resorting to that now :wave:
 

Icarium

Lifestealer
Every team has to play against 12 men if they are playing against real. Bad calls are okay but what the fuck does it mean if you chose what to include in the report and what not. Same happened in that bottle incident where messi got yellow for complaining. Simeone got 8 match ban for just touching the ref while Ronaldo only 2 while doing it 4th time. Not saying simeone should not be banned but still... How can you explain such things. And it is so convenient that Ronaldo is back for atletico game. On what basis did they give 2 match ban. If it is normal red 1 match ban and if it is violent conduct it is 3 match.
 

Co0ter

Senior Member
Even when he is CLEARLY in the wrong after acting like that, he walks off the pitch antagonizing the opposing fans with a cocky gesture. The guy is a fucking cunt; he makes me angry to the point I have to curse on an internet forum. I simply can't stand him.

He is so quick to cry when he gets hit and almost ALWAYS gets protected by referees. How many times does Messi or Neymar need to get hit before the referees start handing out cards?!! He is on a billion dollar team that does nothing but feed him the ball and draw over a dozen penalties a season in which he always takes. What a joke this guy is. A brilliant goal-scorer yes, but he will never be remembered for anything other than that because his personality sucks, his dribbling/skills are stiff and lack any finesse and he doesn't even come close to Messi when it comes to creating pure magic; memories that will live forever.
 

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