Cristiano Ronaldo - v1

mehdimike

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So Messi lost 3 copa america and 1 WC at penalty and extra time with massive choke by Higuain and Palacio.

Ronaldo win 3 CL and 1 EUROCUP at penalty and extratime, 2 of them after crap game and 1 even without playing.

This is fucking unbelievable, somebody up there loves Ronnie and hates Leo.

And Messi Won a CL without playing semi-final and Final:)
And also 2004-05 and 2005-06 La Liga when he was just a young substitute.

It happens for everyone.Still Messi is the better player.
 

RMU ReBorn

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Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
I can see him retiring from the NT soon. Despite what he and Santos said.

Why? He is always chasing after trophies and titles (in a good way), I don't see why he wouldn't be participating in WC 2018. Some said he allegedly said he would even participate in WC 2022.
 

JackaL

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Well, it's not just about those stupid websites either. Even so-called pandits do not speak much more than goals unfortunately. Having that said, yes statistics is indeed finding its way into the pro-football. I don't think we have to see much further than our own club and how Lucho is utilizing the technology to measure players fatigue etc by making them use the trackers, and I am pretty sure it has a good role in him making one of the shortest squads perform very effectively in set-pieces in the country, close to the best in 2014-15 actually. Also the websites like whoscored.com are actually using advanced statistical theories to rate players effectively by counting the number of key passes they would have made, etc. and then using an algorithm to come up with an accurate measure of their importance to the match.

But it would take time for stuff like this to reach the pandits and it is the said pandits who are actually influencing peoples opinion on a player's ability, more so than those stupid websites anyway. And I don't really have very high hopes on that happening though, considering these stupid pundits most of the times are actually people who live with their head buried in the sand! I mean the pandits are full of ones who spew stuff like But can they do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke!! Basically, because stupidity has no bounds

There's actually much more to it. It is just the beginning. People were expecting football to be like Baseball (Moneyball), I can see it takes longer as football has its very own peculiarities. Apart from whoscored, people like Ted Knutson (Statsbomb) and others are really doing interesting stuff on the analytics side.

I do agree that most pundits don't know anything besides goals scored, distance covered etc. But I think those days will be over in a couple of years. Even now, I can't really listen to live commentary when they mostly read some silly statistics.

As for Ronaldo or any other player, I seriously don't know who brought up the "winning intl. titles" stuff, I guess it was to defend Maradona's position. Any sane person would laugh at all those fictitious barriers that Messi supposedly should pass before being considered the best. I remember some English pundits telling people that Messi has never scored on English ground etc.
 

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