Cristiano Ronaldo

[Rassvet]

Miami never stood a chance...

 

[Temptation]

Even as an admirer, the "apetitive fruit" part was so cringeworthy. Had second hand embarrassment watching it. 😬

 

[Maradona37]

Even as an admirer, the "apetitive fruit" part was so cringeworthy. Had second hand embarrassment watching it. 😬

Him thinking he is 'charismatic and good looking' highlights his delusion and the fact that he doesn't understand how much the media and being famous exaggerates these qualities in some men.

He has zero charisma - he comes across as a complete cunt, isn't particularly funny or witty, has no cool way about him. Most people agree with me too.

And even in this video he looks absolutely awful and weird. His looks are better than his charisma, but still, for him to talk like he has the charisma of Ryan Gosling and looks of Henry Cavill is absolutely insane and shows how deluded/low IQ he is, and how he doesn't understand the celebrity effect or the benefits of fame in general

 

[MontenegrinCuler]

Everything about him since leaving Madrid is cringeworthy to be honest

 

[Maradona37]

Everything about him since leaving Madrid is cringeworthy to be honest

He's always been a very cringeworthy individual, ever since he became famous, to be fair.

He has a weird face and a weird personality. Lots of much more talented people in football history too.

I cannot see the attraction either as a footballer (despite him clearly being an excellent player) or in looks and personality. He's ridiculously flattered by his clueless fanboys. I have never met a woman who likes him, it's always creepy in the closet men.

 

[Maradona37]

By the way, in general straight guys are completely clueless about who women find attractive. I am one of the ones who can take myself out of myself and see the female gaze, but most cannot.

To give an example, I used to know this 55-year-old guy. He was adamant that 80 percent of women loved Ronaldo (though he was a Man United 'fan' and clearly loved him as a footballer and person for that reason).

Another time he got fed up of me laughing at his Beckham love, and I told him lots of women wouldn't even look twice at Beckham if he wasn't famous. So to prove me wrong, he phoned his gf and asked her what she thinks of Becks (absolute cuck behaviour, but still). He expected her to say Beckham was god's gift, but his gf actually said that she and most of the women in her office didn't think Beckham was anything special and wouldn't have any interest in him if he was just a regular guy. This guy looked shocked and hurt, and a few months later said his girlfriend only said that to appease me, even though she had never even met me.

This is how clueless straight guys are - yeah plenty women like Beckham, I am sure a good amount like Ronaldo too (though you cannot overlook their fame and money in exaggerating their popularity). But there are probably more that don't like them (especially when you factor in personality) yet straight guys think Ronaldo and Beckham are loved by 95 percent of women minimum. Laughable.

Guys like Brad Pitt and Henry Cavill are multiple levels above Beckham and Ronaldo as far as blond or dark-haired men go.

 

[Messigician]

Siuuuu

 

[Temptation]

Him thinking he is 'charismatic and good looking' highlights his delusion and the fact that he doesn't understand how much the media and being famous exaggerates these qualities in some men.

He has zero charisma - he comes across as a complete cunt, isn't particularly funny or witty, has no cool way about him. Most people agree with me too.

And even in this video he looks absolutely awful and weird. His looks are better than his charisma, but still, for him to talk like he has the charisma of Ryan Gosling and looks of Henry Cavill is absolutely insane and shows how deluded/low IQ he is, and how he doesn't understand the celebrity effect or the benefits of fame in general

Respect your take.

Here's mine:

What Gosling has is charm, not charisma. He's moderately charismatic but very smooth and charming.

Charisma in Hollywood is Tom Cruise and it's not even close. His presence is insane and he captures the audience's attention like no other. No wonder he's the most successful. Even people who hate him go: "God! He's such a movie star!"

Talking about Ronaldo, I'd say he definitely had immense swagger and showmanship in his peak. He looked really cool on the pitch and his style was copied by millions of fans. Don't know about charisma though. Football players are simply not charismatic like politicians and movie stars are. Footballers are boring robots off the pitch. Managers are ones with charisma. Mourinho and Klopp are the 2 most charismatic managers ever.

Ishowspeed and Donald Trump are hated by most people but you can't deny that they both have charisma.

 

[Maradona37]

Respect your take.

Here's mine:

What Gosling has is charm, not charisma. He's moderately charismatic but very smooth and charming.

Charisma in Hollywood is Tom Cruise and it's not even close. His presence is insane and he captures the audience's attention like no other. No wonder he's the most successful. Even people who hate him go: "God! He's such a movie star!"

Talking about Ronaldo, I'd say he definitely had immense swagger and showmanship in his peak. He looked really cool on the pitch and his style was copied by millions of fans. Don't know about charisma though. Football players are simply not charismatic like politicians and movie stars are. Footballers are boring robots off the pitch. Managers are ones with charisma. Mourinho and Klopp are the 2 most charismatic managers ever.

Ishowspeed and Donald Trump are hated by most people but you can't deny that they both have charisma.

Fair enough, I respect what you said there too.

There will always be a debate about whether charisma and charm are the same thing, or different. I understand what you mean - Gosling has gift of the gab and a way about him (charm) whereas Cruise has presence as you say, captures attention (charisma). He's not necessarily charming with women (not saying he is not either) but he has charisma. The same way Gosling couldn't be a cult leader probably (charisma) but could talk some women into bed (charm). I guess you could argue charisma is an extention of charm.

The thing about Ronaldo on the pitch is I don't consider that charisma. That comes from his high level of ability, which has nothing to do with charisma. If he was just a regular player at a regular club and still looked and acted the same he'd have nowhere near the level of attention - true charm or charisma works even with a low level of exposure.

I wouldn't say Speed has charisma. He just comes across as a knob, not particularly funny, witty or intelligent. I dislike Trump strongly but, yes, he has charisma. So half-agree with with that sentence.

Anyway, this is all I will say here as I don't wanna take the thread off topic when it's meant to be about him as a footballer (though you are the one who started it).

 

[Temptation]

By the way, in general straight guys are completely clueless about who women find attractive. I am one of the ones who can take myself out of myself and see the female gaze, but most cannot.

To give an example, I used to know this 55-year-old guy. He was adamant that 80 percent of women loved Ronaldo (though he was a Man United 'fan' and clearly loved him as a footballer and person for that reason).

Another time he got fed up of me laughing at his Beckham love, and I told him lots of women wouldn't even look twice at Beckham if he wasn't famous. So to prove me wrong, he phoned his gf and asked her what she thinks of Becks (absolute cuck behaviour, but still). He expected her to say Beckham was god's gift, but his gf actually said that she and most of the women in her office didn't think Beckham was anything special and wouldn't have any interest in him if he was just a regular guy. This guy looked shocked and hurt, and a few months later said his girlfriend only said that to appease me, even though she had never even met me.

This is how clueless straight guys are - yeah plenty women like Beckham, I am sure a good amount like Ronaldo too (though you cannot overlook their fame and money in exaggerating their popularity). But there are probably more that don't like them (especially when you factor in personality) yet straight guys think Ronaldo and Beckham are loved by 95 percent of women minimum. Laughable.

Guys like Brad Pitt and Henry Cavill are multiple levels above Beckham and Ronaldo as far as blond or dark-haired men go.

Ronaldo is male gaze completely. His looks massively appeal to the LGBTQ community and dudes.



Beckham is male and female gaze. Generally, most people acknowledge that he's an attractive man. That's why he has been so successful in the US as a pure celebrity.



Pitt and Cavill are also appealing to both the male and female gaze obviously.

 

[Maradona37]

Ronaldo is male gaze completely. His looks massively appeal to the LGBTQ community and dudes.



Beckham is male and female gaze. Generally, most people acknowledge that he's an attractive man. That's why he has been so successful in the US as a pure celebrity.



Pitt and Cavill are also appealing to both the male and female gaze obviously.

Yes, Ronaldo is male gaze for sure, mostly because of his height and body and his cuntishness, not his face.

I am not sure, you know. You said you think Beckham is overrated in looks, and in recent years he has started to look weird, almost like he could run the dodgems at the local theme park, as I seen one woman say about him. The sheer prevalence of tattoos is also repulsive and takes away from his physical looks. I think he looks quite weird these days.

I think it is pretty obvious that Pitt is 10 times better looking than Beckham and Cavill is 10 times better looking than Ronaldo. I don't even consider it a matter of opinion or taste - it's just common sense. Sometimes you can just tell one person is miles better looking than another and that's the case in these instances. To say beckham and Ronaldo are close would be overrating them and giving them too much credit. It would do a disservice to Pitt to say Beckham is near his level in looks, and likewise Cavill and Ronaldo (or myriad other men).

Beckham to me is about a 7 on a good day. I consider Ronaldo below average. Cavill and Pitt are 9.8-9.9 i.e. as close to 10 as possible.

Anyway this is going well off-topic again so I am stopping it here - especially as there will probably be some sarcastic comment from Joan soon.

 

[Temptation]

Fair enough, I respect what you said there too.

There will always be a debate about whether charisma and charm are the same thing, or different. I understand what you mean - Gosling has gift of the gab and a way about him (charm) whereas Cruise has presence as you say, captures attention (charisma). He's not necessarily charming with women (not saying he is not either) but he has charisma. The same way Gosling couldn't be a cult leader probably (charisma) but could talk some women into bed (charm). I guess you could argue charisma is an extention of charm.

The thing about Ronaldo on the pitch is I don't consider that charisma. That comes from his high level of ability, which has nothing to do with charisma. If he was just a regular player at a regular club and still looked and acted the same he'd have nowhere near the level of attention - true charm or charisma works even with a low level of exposure.

I wouldn't say Speed has charisma. He just comes across as a knob, not particularly funny, witty or intelligent. I dislike Trump strongly but, yes, he has charisma. So half-agree with with that sentence.

Anyway, this is all I will say here as I don't wanna take the thread off topic when it's meant to be about him as a footballer (though you are the one who started it).

Ronaldo doesn't have charisma. But I wouldn't call him a charisma vacuum either. Has the charisma of a normal dude who's confident and good at a sport. Nothing to shout about.

Charisma vacuum or zero charisma would be Messi and if you're objective you should be able to agree with this, even if you like the guy. He's just extremely shy and awkward in public and just doesn't know how to act normal off the pitch.

Speed has that quality where he can entertain a crowd and capture their attention easily while entertaining them. He has zero anxiety socially and that is literally his modus operandi and claim to fame. You can be charismatic and annoying at the same time. Donald Trump is hardly likeable.

 

[L3v1s]

He's always been a very cringeworthy individual, ever since he became famous, to be fair.

He has a weird face and a weird personality. Lots of much more talented people in football history too.

I cannot see the attraction either as a footballer (despite him clearly being an excellent player) or in looks and personality. He's ridiculously flattered by his clueless fanboys. I have never met a woman who likes him, it's always creepy in the closet men.

Facts, if you watch his interviews from different eras, he's always been cringe when speaking. The way he speaks and delivers was never alluring, but blindfolded fans will act like everything he says is charismatic And then there's the leadership myth about him. Guy has dozens of moments where he goes nuts because other teammates stole a goal off him, so much for being a leader. He's arguably the biggest narcisist in football history, which hardly makes him likeable in many people's eyes.

 

[Maradona37]

Ronaldo doesn't have charisma. But I wouldn't call him a charisma vacuum either. Has the charisma of a normal dude who's confident and good at a sport. Nothing to shout about.

Charisma vacuum or zero charisma would be Messi and if you're objective you should be able to agree with this, even if you like the guy. He's just extremely shy and awkward in public and just doesn't know how to act normal off the pitch.

Speed has that quality where he can entertain a crowd and capture their attention easily while entertaining them. He has zero anxiety socially and that is literally his modus operandi and claim to fame. You can be charismatic and annoying at the same time. Donald Trump is hardly likeable.

I don't like Messi, I have told you this before. I have no liking for him as a person, I just love him as a footballer. And yes, he comes across as quite boring, but I would suggest that's the way he likes it.

Anyone that is enough now.

 

[Maradona37]

Facts, if you watch his interviews from different eras, he's always been cringe when speaking. The way he speaks and delivers was never alluring, but blindfolded fans will act like everything he says is charismatic And then there's the leadership myth about him. Guy has dozens of moments where he goes nuts because other teammates stole a goal off him, so much for being a leader. He's arguably the biggest narcisist in football history, which hardly makes him likeable in many people's eyes.

Yeah he has no charm or charisma really, in fact the way he behaves indicates a high level of insecurity and autism, which ironically is what Tempt says Messi is (and he might be right).

The leader nonsense has always been bollocks. He has disappeared in more big games than people will admit, and even at Man United he was always throwing young players under the bus and asking why he was subbed and not them. It was so funny when people were saying the young players could learn from a legend like him when he went back - as if a cunt like him has any interest in helping the next generation at the expense of his own needs

In fact I think that is wildly overblown in general - 'the veteran players will help bring along the next generation and make them into better players'. Often it doesn't transpire that way. It's like people thinking Hojlund and Zirzkee would turn into lethal finishers just because RVN is training them People are so naive. That's like people saying you and I can run the 100 m in 10 seconds if we train with Usain Bolt.

Ronaldo just has insane level PR and propaganda and spin like a political figure.