Donny van de Beek

[clemente]

Why is he getting the hype? Because hes dutch? Literally the most anti-barca player, just a young Rakitic, I don't want this mistake again, we need someone agile, tricky, who can keep the ball and turn quick, strong bully midfielders with finishing ability is more Madrid BBZ type of players, doesn't really make sense if we want to rebuild.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Why is he getting the hype? Because hes dutch? Literally the most anti-barca player, just a young Rakitic, I don't want this mistake again, we need someone agile, tricky, who can keep the ball and turn quick, strong bully midfielders with finishing ability is more Madrid BBZ type of players, doesn't really make sense if we want to rebuild.

Young Rakitic would be great. Look at videos from 2015 when Rakitic was in his prime. He was very good.

 

[messi2140]

Why is he getting the hype? Because hes dutch? Literally the most anti-barca player, just a young Rakitic, I don't want this mistake again, we need someone agile, tricky, who can keep the ball and turn quick, strong bully midfielders with finishing ability is more Madrid BBZ type of players, doesn't really make sense if we want to rebuild.

Im not big fan of getting Donny , but he is nowhere near being a Rakitic type of player. I'm pretty certain now that you are confusing him with another player.

 

[Vilarrubi]

Im not big fan of getting Donny , but he is nowhere near being a Rakitic type of player. I'm pretty certain now that you are confusing him with another player.

he definitely is. Called him “ another overhyped lethargic oldhead“

 

[Riordon]

Why is he getting the hype? Because hes dutch? Literally the most anti-barca player, just a young Rakitic, I don't want this mistake again, we need someone agile, tricky, who can keep the ball and turn quick, strong bully midfielders with finishing ability is more Madrid BBZ type of players, doesn't really make sense if we want to rebuild.

You are basically describing Coutinho.

You dont all your players to be technical monsters and good with the ball at their feet. You need someone who can offer off ball movement also. Donny is perfect as the 10 in a Koeman 4231

Its not like Henderson, Wijnaldum, Ox etc etc are technical monsters but they fit the way Kloop wants to play.

We need to buy players who the coach wants otherwise it doesnt matter who coach us

 

[El Gato]

Lads, clemente thinks Barca buy great CBs and Alba is world-class. I wouldn't bother looking too much into it.

 

[clemente]

he definitely is. Called him “ another overhyped lethargic oldhead“

Sure if you focus on his chronological number it's not much but the way he plays there is nothing young about that.

You are basically describing Coutinho.

You dont all your players to be technical monsters and good with the ball at their feet. You need someone who can offer off ball movement also. Donny is perfect as the 10 in a Koeman 4231

Its not like Henderson, Wijnaldum, Ox etc etc are technical monsters but they fit the way Kloop wants to play.

We need to buy players who the coach wants otherwise it doesnt matter who coach us

It worked with Iniesta - Xavi midfield, but Wijnaldum type of purchase is literally the problem that I'm talking about, they are only good to cover the distance, Wijnaldum is just another Rakitic that would drastically decline once we offer that retirement contract, buying physical midfielders is just setting ourselves up for another boring 3 years where we need another rebuild.

 

[Laplacian]

You are basically describing Coutinho.

You dont all your players to be technical monsters and good with the ball at their feet. You need someone who can offer off ball movement also. Donny is perfect as the 10 in a Koeman 4231

Its not like Henderson, Wijnaldum, Ox etc etc are technical monsters but they fit the way Kloop wants to play.

We need to buy players who the coach wants otherwise it doesnt matter who coach us

Coutinho wasn't a midfielder.


Also, we have 3 10s! Why are we talking about getting the perfect 10 for Koeman when there are 3 sitting on obscene high wages already? We don't have a midfield. How about Koeman tries to want a player that balances out the issues that exist in our team?

 

[Birdy]

You are basically describing Coutinho.

You dont all your players to be technical monsters and good with the ball at their feet. You need someone who can offer off ball movement also. Donny is perfect as the 10 in a Koeman 4231

Its not like Henderson, Wijnaldum, Ox etc etc are technical monsters but they fit the way Kloop wants to play.

We need to buy players who the coach wants otherwise it doesnt matter who coach us

He will use Griezman in the 10 position of 4-2-3-1. He is the one to offer off-the ball movement, and frankly if there is any position Griezman can play out of the 4 forward ones, that's the position. Koeman's recent statements indicate so.

The question becomes how is Messi gonna be accommodated. Either only one of them plays, or we will still suffer to see Messi playing RW or CF.

What he might have in mind is to use Messi in Depay's position below (and two wingers in Dembele, Fati, Trincao) for the flanks:

 

[Vilarrubi]

Sure if you focus on his chronological number it's not much but the way he plays there is nothing young about that.



It worked with Iniesta - Xavi midfield, but Wijnaldum type of purchase is literally the problem that I'm talking about, they are only good to cover the distance, Wijnaldum is just another Rakitic that would drastically decline once we offer that retirement contract, buying physical midfielders is just setting ourselves up for another boring 3 years where we need another rebuild.

Wijnaldum? Are you high right now?

We’re talking about VDB. Check the thread. And Wijnaldum and him are nothing alike even if you did mean Wijnaldum....

 

[clemente]

Wijnaldum? Are you high right now?

We’re talking about VDB. Check the thread. And Wijnaldum and him are nothing alike even if you did mean Wijnaldum....

Maybe pass the weed if you cannot connect who I was replying to. And yes they do have a lot in common

 

[Laplacian]

Sure if you focus on his chronological number it's not much but the way he plays there is nothing young about that.



It worked with Iniesta - Xavi midfield, but Wijnaldum type of purchase is literally the problem that I'm talking about, they are only good to cover the distance, Wijnaldum is just another Rakitic that would drastically decline once we offer that retirement contract, buying physical midfielders is just setting ourselves up for another boring 3 years where we need another rebuild.

Thank you. This is driving me fucking insane. These guys are complaining about midfield creativity for years and now that the board finally realises Vidal, Rakitic, Roberto, and Busquets are useless...they want to go ahead and support another player incapable of moving the ball and providing a constant supply of chances? He's a Dutch Paulinho. We don't need him, Griezmann's a better version of him already. Messi is an even better version.

We need an 8, a starter ahead of Riqui Puig and Pedro Gonzalez. We need a CM, of the no. 6 role, with mobility and the ability to distribute from deep. Pjanic is probably going to fulfill that role, but he's just as lethargic as Rakitic and has been for 2 years. Arthur was supposed to be that guy but he fucked up. FdJ can take that position if we buy a pure DM to play alongside him. This is what we need to do to fix our midfield. Stability, mobility, technique, and chance creation. Not another fucking roaming #10.

It's not like there's a lack of no. 8s and pure centre midfielders with talent in the market. There's Auoar, there's Barella, there's Camavinga, there's Graelish. Yeah I get it we no longer have money, but there are barely even any links to the kind players in midfield we need.

If Wijnaldum comes here, people here will quickly realise that the reason why he's so good for Liverpool isn't his individual ability, but because of how Liverpool in general is set up and plays, and Klopp himself. A team like Barcelona that heavily depends on technique and individual ability, he'll be less than half the player he is here or Madrid. He's a rotational player at best for us. The midfielder that would make sense for Barcelona is Naby Keita and Fabinho, not Wijnaldum. lol

 

[khaled_a_d]

He will use Griezman in the 10 position of 4-2-3-1. He is the one to offer off-the ball movement, and frankly if there is any position Griezman can play out of the 4 forward ones, that's the position. Koeman's recent statements indicate so.

The question becomes how is Messi gonna be accommodated. Either only one of them plays, or we will still suffer to see Messi playing RW or CF.

What he might have in mind is to use Messi in Depay's position below (and two wingers in Dembele, Fati, Trincao) for the flanks:

Then where will VDB fits? Considering that Koeman personally asking for him, I doubt it is for bench role.
I am against VDB btw, but the thing about Griezmann as no10 doesn't make sense when coach wants both Coutinho and VDB to the team.

 

[serghei]

Then where will VDB fits? Considering that Koeman personally asking for him, I doubt it is for bench role.
I am against VDB btw, but the thing about Griezmann as no10 doesn't make sense when coach wants both Coutinho and VDB to the team.

Well, for a 4-2-3-1, VDB can only play with De Jong in a midfield 2. He is not good enough offensively to occupy a spot in the 3 line, when you have central players like Griezmann and Messi.

 

[Xaviniesta]

i'd rather use coutinho or griezmann at 10 over VdB