Edin Dzeko

[AnfieldEd]

Until Ibra does it consistently in the CL, in the latter stages against the big teams then in no way can he be considered that much better than Dzeko.

I personally believe Dzeko has better potential and has the added bonus of not being a choker and a twat.

 

[Barcaman]

lol well your opinion is yours!

Exactly, I strongly believe he is atm. better than Ibrahimovic. I can take different opinion or disagree with people but won´t allow people throwing insults or personal remarks in the argument.

 

[Metaphysical]

Well at least Dzeko score with club & country with the same consistency , Ibra don't do that ..it's clear as a daylight

his teammates are somewhat different for country, no? ibra plays with, a few players apart, very average talents. dzeko is part of an exceptional forward line.

makes the world of difference to a striker. and ibra still has a 1 in 3 ratio anyway.

His first CL experience and he score in Man United promising to be as lethal as he was in the German league

zlatan scores in the groups, man, that's never been an issue.

he's just struggled in KO games (which is half his own fault for not putting in the required effort and stepping up, half his poor luck that he's never really had an easy KO game and his own team has always struggled).

 

[diegomessi]

dzeko better then ibra?? from even an unbiased view i do not know if i can beleive that..... dzeko is just coming onto the scene and ibra has been around for a while so i guess only time will tell really..

 

[Barcaman]

He´s coming to scene for the guys that never watched Bundesliga, and to be more accurate, to those guys who had to see Dzeko score vs. ManUtd and Spain to notice him. Let´s be fair here and admit how much we saw of this player.
Going after Meta´s induction, Ibra had a worse service in Inter, so how much is he supposed to score now at Barca when he has Xavi, Iniesta and Messi. I´m not arguing he doesn´t have a better service, merely pointing out that it´s often been proven that these things look good on paper but rarely transmit on the pitch. Take Serie A top goalcorers or Pichichi´s.

 

[Metaphysical]

to clarify, I DO think dzeko is awesome.

and will get better. especially if he gets his dream move to italy (milan or juve were his choices I believe).

but there's no player in the world "like" ibra. the ability he has on the ball is utterly magical and separates him from his peers. now what we can do is help him to find consistency in goalscoring and performance.

 

[Beast]

his teammates are somewhat different for country, no? ibra plays with, a few players apart, very average talents. dzeko is part of an exceptional forward line.

makes the world of difference to a striker. and ibra still has a 1 in 3 ratio anyway.



zlatan scores in the groups, man, that's never been an issue.

he's just struggled in KO games (which is half his own fault for not putting in the required effort and stepping up, half his poor luck that he's never really had an easy KO game and his own team has always struggled).

surely you are not suggesting that Bosnia 3 known men is better than Sweden ? i'm sure you wouldn't fall into this trap or you are suggesting that for a nice 8 years the only difference between Dzeko goals and Ibra with their respective national teams are just 8 goals .. one scored 14 in 21 games and the other have 22 in 59 games ..
i'm sure through out this period Larsson,Elmander ,Berg (now ), Kallstrom ,Larsson , Wilhelmsson through out those 8 years are worse than Bosnia who are just finding their feet
it does make a world of difference alright but for Ibra not for poor Dzeko
As for Zlatan CL record well it's not just the CL KO he doesn't score it but also all the big games in group stage out of 6 games vs B Munich he has 1 goals scored (with both Juve & Inter ) and so far his record with Barca is Inter game which is another miss ..

 

[Metaphysical]

surely you are not suggesting that Bosnia 3 known men is better than Sweden ? i'm sure you wouldn't fall into this trap or you are suggesting that for a nice 8 years the only difference between Dzeko goals and Ibra with their respective national teams are just 8 goals .. one scored 14 in 21 games and the other have 22 in 59 games ..
i'm sure through out this period Larsson,Elmander ,Berg (now ), Kallstrom ,Larsson , Wilhelmsson through out those 8 years are worse than Bosnia who are just finding their feet
it does make a world of difference alright but for Ibra not for poor Dzeko
As for Zlatan CL record well it's not just the CL KO he doesn't score it but also all the big games in group stage out of 6 games vs B Munich he has 1 goals scored (with both Juve & Inter ) and so far his record with Barca is Inter game which is another miss ..

you are such a hater, man.

elmander is an uncreative striker, berg has barely played so doesn't count. wilhelmsson is good, not great. larsson and kallstrom are great, but that's two players. not to mention lagerback is very pragmatic in his attacking style, which since his players have gotten worse (henke in particular) makes sweden very poor in attack. and zlatan needs proper support in attack.

dzeko meanwhile is playing alongside misimovic, pjanic, muslimovic and ibisevic. in an attacking team with lots of confidence and belief. misimovic is more creative by himself than the entire sweden midfield (and that's including kallstrom).

and if you notice, when sweden were better (i.e. a good team) zlatan's goal record and performances were actually quite good. recently, as sweden have gotten more pragmatic and his teammates have gotten older/worse, ibra has had massive goal droughts (and still has a 1:3 ratio, proving that way back when he scored goals regularly).

but really I promised myself to never get into debates with you about zlatan, since you obviously have something against the dude and nothing I say will change your mind about him. you will consistently nitpick to find things that put him down.

 

[Esteve]

Playaaaa Hataaaaaa!

(Again!)

 

[Beast]

you are such a hater, man.

elmander is an uncreative striker, berg has barely played so doesn't count. wilhelmsson is good, not great. larsson and kallstrom are great, but that's two players. not to mention lagerback is very pragmatic in his attacking style, which since his players have gotten worse (henke in particular) makes sweden very poor in attack. and zlatan needs proper support in attack.

dzeko meanwhile is playing alongside misimovic, pjanic, muslimovic and ibisevic. in an attacking team with lots of confidence and belief. misimovic is more creative by himself than the entire sweden midfield (and that's including kallstrom).

and if you notice, when sweden were better (i.e. a good team) zlatan's goal record and performances were actually quite good. recently, as sweden have gotten more pragmatic and his teammates have gotten older/worse, ibra has had massive goal droughts (and still has a 1:3 ratio, proving that way back when he scored goals regularly).

but really I promised myself to never get into debates with you about zlatan, since you obviously have something against the dude and nothing I say will change your mind about him. you will consistently nitpick to find things that put him down.

If pointing to deficiencies means X or Y are haters you should immediately quit the forum, as debating is all about pointing towards deficiencies in teams,players,tactics to all other non football related .
If everytime someone mention something about someone u don't like and u brand him a hater automatically that makes 80 % of the forums are a bunch of haters and u should get out of such a sick atmosphere filled with hate and join a forum filled with love and "yes sir " " i agree " " + 1000000000000 " members

In my defense i'm not a hater i'm just pointing at the flaws in your arguments (which usually associate with anything has Barca and Man United in it ) especially when u point out that Bosnia (Bosnia ffs ) has a better service for Dzeko then Ibra considering the later record in the last 8 freaking years unlike Dzeko ..

 

[Esteve]

The fact that you never have anything positive to say about him makes you a hater. It's not just that you point out every little flaw he has. It's just your overall blind hatred. And as DiegoMessi would ask - What about his "cool hair & tattoos?" Surely they count

 

[Beast]

The fact that you never have anything positive to say about him makes you a hater. It's not just that you point out every little flaw he has. It's just your overall blind hatred. And as DiegoMessi would ask - What about his "cool hair & tattoos?" Surely they count

Do i need to make things up so you could be happy

will i say he is a big game player when he is not , or consistent ? or humble ? or did a great job for Sweden when his job is to score ?

he is doing good for you in all the weak games and scoring in them as expected , if there is something else i will be the first to say it but so far he done nothing out of my original critical point of view for him to change my point..
he still failed to score when it mattered (Denmark game, Super cup , Inter game ) .. so my opinion of him is so far spot on not hating him

 

[Esteve]

Talk about missing the point.

You'll never be able to praise him, regardless of how much he achieves. Just your personal issue with him, I guess. Most here could praise Benzema if he started to play well, I would think. See, he's easily as "overrated" as Ibra. More so, probably as he hasn't done anything worth writing home about to date whereas Zlatan has been decent. He offers a lot more than the French lardarse, imo.

 

[Beast]

Talk about missing the point.

You'll never be able to praise him, regardless of how much he achieves. Just your personal issue with him, I guess. Most here could praise Benzema if he started to play well, I would think. See, he's easily as "overrated" as Ibra. More so, probably as he hasn't done anything worth writing home about to date whereas Zlatan has been decent. He offers a lot more than the French lardarse, imo.

You don't know me to make such foolish judgments, people who know me on the old forum know i'm the first to admit and praise if a play proves me wrong and it happened before with Henry
so far Benzema & Ibra for me are in the same bracket , overrated and hyped and did nothing worth mentioning
jury are out but until then don't expect me to change Ibra history or record when we talk about him and back to the main point ,Dzeko is more consistent with club and country and in all competitions

 

[Esteve]

Wouldn't place Zlatan & Benzema in the same bracket, to be honest. One has been decent while the other has been piss poor for the most part. I expect more from both, I'll give you that, but still. Zlatan has done more, imo.