Marshall D Teach
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They're going to drop those demands. Otherwise, Haaland's not going anywhere. PSG is the only team that might be crazy enough to bite.
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Vilarrubi
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why would he embarrass himself like that.JamDav1982
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They want to make it an auction.
If the numbers were seen as achievable there would be no auction and multiple clubs would pay it.
Just a starting point of figures that are far too high for clubs to start offering what they can.
If the numbers were seen as achievable there would be no auction and multiple clubs would pay it.
Just a starting point of figures that are far too high for clubs to start offering what they can.
khaled_a_d
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They were very big figures actually when you take into account their positions, Neuer was top 3 most expensive GK and Hummels were one of most expensive CBs in history too.
And Bayern situation in Germany isn't a model you can replicate in Spain.
420M is the figure including all add-ons which we won't pay even most of them, but ok. We paid a lot for sure.
But who is our next big 3 signings? Neymar/Suarez/FDJ. All were hugely successful deals for us and was worth every cent paid for them. Suarez was the 3rd most expensive player in history when he was signed (after Bale and CR7) just like Coutinho. Neymar was also top 10.
It is about value for money, sometimes you get a good cheap bargain, other times your cheapest option is actually the one with the most expensive price tag.
Liverpool for example made record defensive signing in VVD, record GK signing in Alison, record club signing in consecutive years in Mane & Salah. All were expensive players when they signed and all were worth the money.
Manu made a record signings in Pogba and Maguire and they both failed.
They will be spending at least one third of it on attacker then.
You can't win CL or even compete for it without elite offensive weapon. This has been the case for almost CL winner in past decade and half bar chelsea.
And those players require huge money, unless you are Bayern and can secure a player like Lewa for free because he only wants to sign there.
Players knows they are the one who make their employers big money and not vice versa.
If we aren't making an even competitive offer, then you are basically trying to exploit a great young man talent's based on "pride for a footballer to wear our jersey" and it will never happen.
Messi knew that, CR7 knew that, Neymar knew it, Ronaldinho knew it and Halaand and Mpabbe knows it.
If you pay them they know you can sooner or later turn back the investment and if you don't they can look elsewhere.
Sure, during negotiations they will ask for some "above the market" demands but it is normal during such process.
And sure, no one wants to give every player their demands or spend recklessly, but at the end you have to decide which players you have to go all in and do that.
MagIX
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Ok, we have different opinion and I respect yours, but for me
30M for Neuer or 40M for Hummels are not large amount, not even at that time and despite the position.
For me only Neymar was a very good investment, Suarez for me had been very good for only 1 year. (FDJ, as written in my previous post, is a very good purchase)
Liverpool spent 34M for Mane and 40M for Salah (both not star players) for me not big figures, Klopp saw in these players talent/potential and he was right. VVD and Alison expansive yes but thanks to the 120M received form Couthino deal Liverpool decided to spend so much and again they was right because both delivered for what they had been paid.
MU.... that the difference of having smart management and not.
For me spending so much for players like Cou, Demb, Grizz, Malcom and btw (not because of the price) the saga RB with Douglas, Vidal, R.Sergio mean having an shameful incompetent and ridiculous management.
For me wearing a legendary jersey like ours (and not only ours) is not the same like wearing a MCity or PSG jersey (or others).
Having clarified that and as already written, it is only my opinion., therefore I won't reply anymore on this topic
30M for Neuer or 40M for Hummels are not large amount, not even at that time and despite the position.
For me only Neymar was a very good investment, Suarez for me had been very good for only 1 year. (FDJ, as written in my previous post, is a very good purchase)
Liverpool spent 34M for Mane and 40M for Salah (both not star players) for me not big figures, Klopp saw in these players talent/potential and he was right. VVD and Alison expansive yes but thanks to the 120M received form Couthino deal Liverpool decided to spend so much and again they was right because both delivered for what they had been paid.
MU.... that the difference of having smart management and not.
For me spending so much for players like Cou, Demb, Grizz, Malcom and btw (not because of the price) the saga RB with Douglas, Vidal, R.Sergio mean having an shameful incompetent and ridiculous management.
For me wearing a legendary jersey like ours (and not only ours) is not the same like wearing a MCity or PSG jersey (or others).
Having clarified that and as already written, it is only my opinion., therefore I won't reply anymore on this topic
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JamDav1982
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It was reported at time Klopp was not all that keen on Salah and it was more their analytic dept that pushed for him. Same with Robertson.
Easy to pick and choose the current teams doing well having not spent a lot but it goes in cycles and if that easy Liverpool will repeat it.
Myth about Coutinho money paying for VVD and Allison. They could have afforded both and tried to buy VVD before Coutinho left.
Liverpool are getting to point a lot of players are turning 30 and will have to rebuild before long. Lets see how easy their management find it.
khaled_a_d
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And we were able to afford Dembele & Coutinho thanks to Neymar deal too. We were able to afford the likes of Griezmann and maybe Halaand/Mpabbe thanks to great revenue that we need new poster boy in order to keep it coming.
Givenchy
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if we have the money (which I highly doubt) we should prioritize and go for Mbappe. Superior player, no Raiola, higher ceiling and has proven more at the highest level. Generational talent gets thrown around too much lately but Mbappe is the real deal
Dembouz-Mbappe connection also, the real french connection
I always see Haaland in the PL, maybe at a club like United so Raiola can ship him on in a few seasons for the next big pay day.
Dembouz-Mbappe connection also, the real french connection
I always see Haaland in the PL, maybe at a club like United so Raiola can ship him on in a few seasons for the next big pay day.
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