Erling Haaland

[Respekt_III]

True. Cant trust their word.

Same with Pep too. Who knows if he speaks the truth or not.

Definitely not

 

[vegitot]

Calma. He will excel under Pep. He is young, want to learn and improve.

 

[Andresito]

The basis of that 'economical' analysis is based off newspapers - yet he chose values that werent widley reported because? lol.
Secondly you are meant to analyse the data then then form a conclusion, he by his own admission went to prove his conclusion by analysing the data lol. You just need to look at the fact he used 43m pounds for the commissions and agent fee when its been widely reported to be 40m euros which is 34m pounds. His transfer fee is also widley rumoured to be 51m pounds not 52m but i guess every million helps.

But hey people don't question anything in the news so expecting people to actually be critical of accuracy of data, how it's collated and analysed and not take it at face value is expecting way too much.

eg https://theathletic.com/3308080/2022/05/13/manchester-city-34m-agent-fees-haaland-deal-thing-past/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakgar...-may-be-the-last-of-its-kind/?sh=285974134d9f

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just for a bit of fun, let?s now look at this summer?s major deals: Erling Haaland to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MCFC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MCFC</a> and Darwin Nunez to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LFC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LFC</a>. I should emphasise that most of these figures are taken from media reports, so they will not be completely accurate, but they will help illustrate some points.</p>— Swiss Ramble (@SwissRamble) <a href="https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1537321442064334848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Respekt_III]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just for a bit of fun, let?s now look at this summer?s major deals: Erling Haaland to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MCFC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MCFC</a> and Darwin Nunez to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LFC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LFC</a>. I should emphasise that most of these figures are taken from media reports, so they will not be completely accurate, but they will help illustrate some points.</p>— Swiss Ramble (@SwissRamble) <a href="https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1537321442064334848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not sure how that adds anything to my point? or concludes why he used outlier values (outside of making a point).

 

[Temptation]

It's funny Klopp said they wouldn't go for Haaland because he was so expensive, yet they went for Nunez who is way less proven but pretty damn expensive. Looking at those prices, I would rather have Haaland.

In reality, Haaland probably never wanted to join Liverpool

We never wanted Haaland. We wanted Kylian.

 

[Respekt_III]

We never wanted Haaland. We wanted Kylian.

lol what were you going to pay him? never was a real option.

 

[Temptation]

lol what were you going to pay him? never was a real option.

Made an enquiry. We were never gonna get him though.

 

[El Gato]

Not sure how that adds anything to my point? or concludes why he used outlier values (outside of making a point).

Without looking through rest of posts, pretty sure it just shows he admitted data isn't entirely accurate and taken from media reports.

And you don't prove conclusions.
You prove hypotheses. If he had an idea he decided to test with the available data then there's hardly anything to complain about in terms of the steps taken. Just the accuracy of it can be debated

 

[Respekt_III]

Made an enquiry. We were never gonna get him though.

very wengerian inquiry

 

[Respekt_III]

Without looking through rest of posts, pretty sure it just shows he admitted data isn't entirely accurate and taken from media reports.

And you don't prove conclusions.
You prove hypotheses. If he had an idea he decided to test with the available data then there's hardly anything to complain about in terms of the steps taken. Just the accuracy of it can be debated

It doesn't answer my points at all or why i have an issue with how this data is consumed by the general footballing population, why did he choose values much higher than those widely reported? because he wanted it to fit his agenda. Secondly this isn't a scientific analysis its a financial one.....

 

[El Gato]

In finance you "prove conclusions"? That's a new one.
Either way, semantics.

What does it matter which number he used? And why is it a problem to nitpick in this case to present it as if it discredits the analysis. What 'agenda' would that be?

 

[malvolio]

It's funny Klopp said they wouldn't go for Haaland because he was so expensive, yet they went for Nunez who is way less proven but pretty damn expensive. Looking at those prices, I would rather have Haaland.

In reality, Haaland probably never wanted to join Liverpool

Liverpool don't pay salaries at the level City pay. So he was right that Nunez is less expensive. Once Nunez is too big for the club he will leave for Real Madrid.

Mane was paid peanuts when compared to forwards from other big teams.

Haaland wasn't interested in Liverpool anyway, that is also true.

 

[JamDav1982]

Dont believe those salary figures.

Footballers dont move for 100m and take salaries of 5/6m.

Liverpool tried to sign Mbappe and better believe he was being offered a fortune.

Making out Nunez is there until too big for Liverpool and sign for Real is deluded shite from years back. Doesnt get much better for players than top clubs in EPL to push for move to Barca/Real as much as would in past.

 

[Respekt_III]

In finance you "prove conclusions"? That's a new one.
Either way, semantics.

What does it matter which number he used? And why is it a problem to nitpick in this case? What 'agenda' would that be?

It was late and my vocabulary failed me but that should of been obvious.
I'll rephrase, He was trying to show how transfers cost clubs more than just the fee they pay, the number matters because accuracy - why choose outliers that will obviously exaggerate the results? I'm Nit-picking because people are passing this off as an accurate analysis with little to no thought reposting this without any of the disclaimers (or even ignoring them when they are there).

 

[El Gato]

Fair enough but I don't think folk generally pass it on attributing accuracy to analysis. Just that the process in which the conclusion is reached is relatively consistent throughout and therefore more believable

Nobody is bias-free. But only some sources are more rigorous than others in their analysis and honestly yet to have found downright negative opinions of Swiss Ramble. Always curious when someone does pop up with a negative twang directed at his analysis.