Ernesto Valverde - V1

Joan

Well-known member
There were some comments that pointed out that the stat was merely coincidental and how EV lacks a lot of qualities of a good coach and they were downvoted to eternity.
Quote me such comments. I can't find them.

What those downvoted comments pointed out is that the stats are heavily influenced by (1) us scoring the most goals in the league (2) us having the strongest bench. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
None of our players have done well under him other than Arthur the vast majority are under performing.. alternatively the players who struggled badly under Valverde have positively blossomed elsewhere ..

Nuff said

Arthur improving
Dembele improving
Mats improving
Semedo improving
Alena improving
Lenglet improving

Other players are mostly old. It is quite hard to expect from Busquets, Rakitic, Messi, Suarez, Pique to improve with 30-31 years on their back.
In cases of Coutinho, maybe he is not suitable for us.
Malcom? Not Ev's fualt, he is probably not good for Barca.

Maybe EV is not as bad as people here are writing for Months.
 

Zidane82

Well-known member
Arthur improving
Dembele improving
Mats improving
Semedo improving
Alena improving
Lenglet improving

Other players are mostly old. It is quite hard to expect from Busquets, Rakitic, Messi, Suarez, Pique to improve with 30-31 years on their back.
In cases of Coutinho, maybe he is not suitable for us.
Malcom? Not Ev's fualt, he is probably not good for Barca.

Maybe EV is not as bad as people here are writing for Months.
I don't give any credit to Valve for them .. it's despite his input I'd say
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
He said he didn't call de Jong (as that would be against some rules) while pep and other admitted they did. :lol:
 

clemente

New member
Arthur improving
Dembele improving
Mats improving
Semedo improving
Alena improving
Lenglet improving

Other players are mostly old. It is quite hard to expect from Busquets, Rakitic, Messi, Suarez, Pique to improve with 30-31 years on their back.
In cases of Coutinho, maybe he is not suitable for us.
Malcom? Not Ev's fualt, he is probably not good for Barca.

Maybe EV is not as bad as people here are writing for Months.

Arthur maybe improved.
Dembele started improving after a season of regression.
Mats literally no difference between now and 2 seasons ago.
Semedo? Is this another troll comment? His best game was his first 2 games for us, looked on the way to be the best RB in the world but its been downhill from there after he got valbenched.
Alena improving? How lmao, he is playing as everyone expects him to.
Lenglet? Just because player is playing well, doesn't mean he's improving, I feel like you have a wrong idea of what "improvement" means.
 

Messigician

Senior Member
Arthur maybe improved.
Dembele started improving after a season of regression.
Mats literally no difference between now and 2 seasons ago.
Semedo? Is this another troll comment? His best game was his first 2 games for us, looked on the way to be the best RB in the world but its been downhill from there after he got valbenched.
Alena improving? How lmao, he is playing as everyone expects him to.
Lenglet? Just because player is playing well, doesn't mean he's improving, I feel like you have a wrong idea of what "improvement" means.

Stopped reading when you said Arthur maybe improved. Clesr yiu dont watch our games because the answer is so obvious. Arthur vas become much more creative and willing to take risks now than he was at the start of the season.

MATS has cut out the mistakes from his game, Iniesta was improved and got one more season out of him, Rakitic looked finished under Lucho, Alba was on his way out under Lucho, Messi is playing the best gootball of his life under EV, and Dembele is improving every day.

But sure keep pushing thecboard are idiots and EV doesn't know what he's doing narrative
 

clemente

New member
Stopped reading when you said Arthur maybe improved. Clesr yiu dont watch our games because the answer is so obvious. Arthur vas become much more creative and willing to take risks now than he was at the start of the season.

MATS has cut out the mistakes from his game, Iniesta was improved and got one more season out of him, Rakitic looked finished under Lucho, Alba was on his way out under Lucho, Messi is playing the best gootball of his life under EV, and Dembele is improving every day.

But sure keep pushing thecboard are idiots and EV doesn't know what he's doing narrative

Stopped reading after you said clesr, I don't know what language this is but I am going to assume its English and you are just illiterate, gonna have to send people like you to ignore list. If you want unignore PM me 500 words essay without grammar errors about why you love EV so much.
 

vlad

New member
Stopped reading after you said clesr, I don't know what language this is but I am going to assume its English and you are just illiterate, gonna have to send people like you to ignore list. If you want unignore PM me 500 words essay without grammar errors about why you love EV so much.

His first language is not english, just like for most here, he writed post that is clearly readable, and you are insulting him because bad grammatic, you are on football forum, chill out with grammatic and stick to football
 

Joan

Well-known member
Has nothing to do with English being his first language. It's a blatant lapsus calami, happens all the time. Desputing an argument over it is pathetic. Also telling.
 

clemente

New member
His first language is not english, just like for most here, he writed post that is clearly readable, and you are insulting him because bad grammatic, you are on football forum, chill out with grammatic and stick to football

Neither is mine, but at least I re-read what I write and make sure its understandable, he straight up wrote words that don't even exist.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Arthur maybe improved.
Dembele started improving after a season of regression.
Mats literally no difference between now and 2 seasons ago.
Semedo? Is this another troll comment? His best game was his first 2 games for us, looked on the way to be the best RB in the world but its been downhill from there after he got valbenched.
Alena improving? How lmao, he is playing as everyone expects him to.
Lenglet? Just because player is playing well, doesn't mean he's improving, I feel like you have a wrong idea of what "improvement" means.

Dembele:
So, if he hasn't start progressing right away, that is ALWAYS on "a stupid coach"?
What about a kid who had problems with food, waking up, coming to trainings, stretching before matches, learning Spanish, playing playstation every night, who was slipping during matches like Alexis Sanchez in his first few Months here etc?
So, if he didn't click right away=it must be a coach and not one of 1000s of other possible reasons?

Arthur:
From what I have seen, he didn't play forward passes at all at Gremio and in the first few Months here.
Lately he is playing forward passes way more.
Also, he was dead tired after 45-50 minutes in his first weeks here.
Lately he is ok until a minute 60-70, so he improved in stamina's department also.
I guess it won't be up to EV and our coaching staff who talked with him, but about Arthur who improved "on his own".

Mats:
I don't see lately stupid goals from half of a pitch, or his frosty the frozen reactions, or crazy things when he was dribbling players near a corner flag for no logical reason.
I guess that coaches have nothing to do with him not doing those things anymore.

Semedo:
Looked like a total trash in the last season and in the beginning of this season.
Lately he is not actually a new Alves, but is quite a decent player, BETTER than Semedo from the last year.
I won't comment about that myth where Semedo played awesome in the first few matches and how EV killed his confidence.
He had 1-2 good games and then disappeared even without EV.

Lenglet:
Not too many believed in him when we signed him.
Now he is not much worse than Umtiti who is injured.
Either people didn't know about his skills or he raised his level even more.

Alena:
Looked like a crazy turnover machine until now.
Lately he is doing less mistakes and keeping it more calm and less run and gun.

Also, isn't Alba looking better than ever under EV?

I mean, if you guys don't like EV, everything will be wrong.
But tbf, lately he even started rotating.
Malcom started to play, Alena started to play, Messi/Suarez/Busi/Raki were rotated lately. Vidal is playing a lot.
Alba is rested sometimes.
Ev is making subs even before the 80th minute lately.

He is not Pep, but he is nowhere near as bad as you guys are making him to be.
Reading some posts here, it seems like he turned Messi, Coutinho and all players into Andre Gomes' level with his bad coaching.
 
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