Ernesto Valverde

[Kul_z]

We are getting destroyed on both flanks during retardo era too often, and there lies the key to his incompetence. Its okay to go away from barca style of play, but in no particular area we could say : we are dominating the opponent.
433 with this roster is not working.
442 without wingers does not work either.
We are not compact and players too often go in to the lurking mode.

He never, ever experimented with some other formations:
352
(3412)

Todibo pique lenglet
Roberto de jong arthur alba
Griezman
Messi suarez

4231

Semedo pique lenglet alba
De jong arthur
Messi vidal(griez) dembele
Suarez

343
Umtiti pique lenglet
Roberto de jong arthur alba
Messi griez dembele

We saw nothing, when he rotates line up is so weak and 2 or 3 players are off their positions constantly.

Saw the comments in messi section, its laughable to see that so many think that messi is the problem.
Apart from ter stegen and alba, messi is the only player that does his job in attacking area(thats his job eh) more then good enough.

Its up to valverde to tell others what they should do, and to think how to shut the holes in deffensive areas. We need to get our posession % higher if he thinks playing with suarez, pique and busi in starting line up, if he wants more direct approach(i think thats what hes trying to achieve) he needs to bench them and play with younger ones in this system. How? Its his fucking job to figure that out.

 

[Zidane82]

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[Zidane82]

Sooo despite Valverde having one of the world’s most expensive squads at his disposal - including arguably two of the best three players in world football ( Messi and FDJ) ... the league is being headed by Granada and we are only ahead of Real Sociedad through goal difference.

We are also desperate to watch ...

 

[Havesaks]

Frenkie is not a top 3 player in the world. And Messi Suarez and griezmann are all not fitting well with each other. What made Bayern, Barca, real and now lfc and city great? They all have a well-rounded team, each player supplement each other perfectly. And Barca as well as Madrid board havent done well in the transfer market. Sure the managers play a big part, but if the manager doesn't get a single player he wishes for and all transfers are made on pr. And ancient ideals, ofc the balance of the team will be off. And thats what we are seeing now. People do forget that managers like Klopp and Pep got a lot of time and patience, and especially every player they wanted. The pressure on Barca is immense and no manager has proper time or patience to experiment. I bet ya, Klopp and Pep don't want to touch us in the state we are or were in at EVs arrival.

Messi-problem, core age problems, galacticos problem, media / expectations... The results have been what one could expect from the materiale, not that great, but not bad either.

 

[Kul_z]

Frenkie is not a top 3 player in the world. And Messi Suarez and griezmann are all not fitting well with each other. What made Bayern, Barca, real and now lfc and city great? They all have a well-rounded team, each player supplement each other perfectly. And Barca as well as Madrid board havent done well in the transfer market. Sure the managers play a big part, but if the manager doesn't get a single player he wishes for and all transfers are made on pr. And ancient ideals, ofc the balance of the team will be off. And thats what we are seeing now. People do forget that managers like Klopp and Pep got a lot of time and patience, and especially every player they wanted. The pressure on Barca is immense and no manager has proper time or patience to experiment. I bet ya, Klopp and Pep don't want to touch us in the state we are or were in at EVs arrival.

Messi-problem, core age problems, galacticos problem, media / expectations... The results have been what one could expect from the materiale, not that great, but not bad either.

Lmao. Just stop it already. Fdj is not top 3 material yet, more like best from the rest. But he is top 3 in his position for sure.
Tell me, why is our fitness level that low, and why is our distance covered less for 15, 20% less then any opponent we are playing?

 

[Sailor Mars]

Based on his press conference quotes, this eunuch really has no shame. First suggests that the distance covered statistics might be wrong and not have measured properly. Then, butchers Cruyff's quote and says that Cruyff said to run less than the opponent.

 

[Vilarrubi]

This guy is stuck on repeat again.


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[serghei]

He's one dumb moron that's for sure.

'We want Arthur to have the ball in offensive position'.

That's great Sherlock. All we have to do is figure out who is going to pass him the ball in offensive positions. Busi, Alba, Lenglet, Pique and Semedo? Hilarious.

No wonder this guy barely makes us create 2-3 decent chances a game with that much possession. Guy has a limited understanding on how the possession game is supposed to work in order to create chances. Everything is connected. Every compartment must find the right quality and movement in the next sectors. The main progression pattern is from sector to sector, with occasional switches with long balls when there is enough space to warrant that. When you don't have enough to ensure this natural progression, you create chaos.

When you take your controllers and your main passers, the smartest movers, and you move them up, you're gonna find you don't have the right players to connect the defense with the last third, basically reducing the quality of the attacks. Midfielders play in midfield, and take the ball from the defenders, moving in spaces to be able to receive the ball and pass it to the offensive outlets. They do not move up allowing the defenders to act as midfielders, only so they can play more near the 16m. box and give the last pass more often. A CMs main job is not to score goals, or make assists.

Somebody explain the genius Valverde that Xavi had 3 goals and 7 assists in La Liga in 2010/11. Ozil had 6 goals and 19 assists. A clueless dude sees this and thinks Ozil was a much better playmaker than Xavi, because he had almost 3 times the assists. Gees, I wonder why that dumb manager Josep Guardiola didn't try to move Xavi up so he can have more assists as well? Maybe because that was not his place in the team... Maybe because he was more valuable when he made 100 passes a game with 95%+ passing success rate and unparalleled associative game with almost every teammate, with superb movement to boot.

We really need to clear this team from incompetents. We have lazy players to deal with, pampered veterans as it is. Adding an incompetent manager on top of that is how Liverpool and Roma happens time and time again.

 

[messi2140]

Based on his press conference quotes, this eunuch really has no shame. First suggests that the distance covered statistics might be wrong and not have measured properly. Then, butchers Cruyff's quote and says that Cruyff said to run less than the opponent.

I thought you were taking the piss , but he actually said that.

But guys , Valverde is a great tactician , a shame he is even greater hiding it.

 

[serghei]

Messi-problem, core age problems, galacticos problem, media / expectations... The results have been what one could expect from the materiale, not that great, but not bad either.

Sure, all of those are issues. Be sure to add Valverde to the list of problems though. When Guardiola came in 2008, we were in a much worse state in all those areas. And in that season we won 6/6 titles. That's the difference between world class manager with balls of steel, and mediocre manager without any.

Top managers focus on the great things, and improve the bad ones using the assets to their advantage. Average managers deepen the issues a team has and try to weasel they way through as much as they can.

It's always amusing when guys like you praise Valverde for not fixing anything since he signed for Barcelona. Took over a dominant league team with problems in CL, and we are still a dominant league team and even bigger problems in CL. While playing uglier shittier football and bending over for the veterans like no other before him.

Zlatan signed for Barcelona under the wrong manager. Valverde is perfect for him.

 

[Zidane82]

Frenkie is not a top 3 player in the world. And Messi Suarez and griezmann are all not fitting well with each other. What made Bayern, Barca, real and now lfc and city great? They all have a well-rounded team, each player supplement each other perfectly. And Barca as well as Madrid board havent done well in the transfer market. Sure the managers play a big part, but if the manager doesn't get a single player he wishes for and all transfers are made on pr. And ancient ideals, ofc the balance of the team will be off. And thats what we are seeing now. People do forget that managers like Klopp and Pep got a lot of time and patience, and especially every player they wanted. The pressure on Barca is immense and no manager has proper time or patience to experiment. I bet ya, Klopp and Pep don't want to touch us in the state we are or were in at EVs arrival.

Messi-problem, core age problems, galacticos problemhrhed , media / expectations... The results have been what one could expect from the materiale, not that great, but not bad either.

When I see FDJ play it’s like watching a teenager playing against under 11’s .. he’s a step above everyone

 

[Vilarrubi]

I thought you were taking the piss , but he actually said that.

But guys , Valverde is a great tactician , a shame he is even greater hiding it.

yeah the dumb fucker actually said that.

Yes Ernesto, but the whole point of running less than the opponent is because you control the game and pass the ball more, we got pretty much dominated by Slavia Prague..........

 

[Messigician]

Arthur misses out but Roberto is included in Barça squad.

🔶Arthur is not in Valverde's 18-man squad list for tactical reasons rather than an injury problem.

🔷Roberto is in the squad after recovering from his injury and is prefered to Arthur for this fixture.

 

[clemente]

He never, ever experimented with some other formations

Not formations, he never experimented with literally anything, last 2 seasons dragged the same 11 through mud without a hint of any tactical or lineup change, everyone was always dead by March.

 

[Messigician]

Valverde: "Valladolid are a very good side that have obtained good results against great teams."