Ernesto Valverde

[Barcilliant]

These are Messi's last years. I want a big name manager with experience not some rookie like Xavi or Henry.

I've wanted Allegri for some time. Not the most charismatic but tactically astute enough and will tighten up the defense. His football won't light the world on fire but will be alot better than Shitverde.

 

[te amo barca]

These are Messi's last years. I want a big name manager with experience not some rookie like Xavi or Henry.

I've wanted Allegri for some time. Not the most charismatic but tactically astute enough and will tighten up the defense. His football won't light the world on fire but will be alot better than Shitverde.

Allegri is the same type of breed as Valverde.

 

[devo901]

I can imagine Henry is an unexperient trainer when it comes to top-clubs (so was Zidane).
But he is personality wise not a strong character, and that fits perfectly to the board, they will only accept rubberstamps and yes-sayer - and this will not change unless they finish la liga in relegation.

EV is better than many - but by far many find other trainers more attractive. Which I understand - being a weak, "everybody's darling" (board & players) you have to do a lot of compromises that creates a bit questionable decisions. In the end you appear spine-free - but less fights and thus a long lasting career.

 

[Rory]

We need a good-very good manager to start here soon. How long will Messi be here? 3 years max? That means we need someone to come in so they can have at least 1 or 2 years with the squad while Messi is being phased out so that we don't dramatically drop down the table when he does leave. Screw the idea of a manager being able to give Messi a Swan song, that was ruined the last 2 years by Valverde and a few terrible performances. We need to plan for the next decade.

Real Madrid have: Vinicius (he's done ok for a 19 year old), Rodrygo (18), Fede Valverde (21), Eder Militao (21), Mendy (24), Odegaard (21), Achraf Hakimi (21), Kubo 18.

Who do we have? Frenkie (22), Arthur (23 - injured too often at the moment), Lenglet (24), Fati (17), and a few unproven youngsters (Todibo, Araujo, Carles Perez).

Next few transfer windows need to be focused on improving this, not emptying our accounts on Neymar or some other €100m flop.

 

[serghei]

Allegri is the same type of breed as Valverde.

He is, stylistically, but he is much more of a leader and a strong personality. The main fault of Valverde is his mellow, soft, and cowardice attitude and behavior when there is pressure on him. Stylistically, there are many top managers who play the football he tries to play. But the majorities of the top ones have more tenacity than Valverde and aren't as scared of failing as he is. They are more confident and better prepared.

The issue with Valverde is that his style is similar to guys like Mourinho, Simeone, Allegri. But these guys are tougher, don't take any shit, and basically command their teams. To effectively play that way at the highest level you need these qualities.

Ernie sets his team to defend leads (either by choice or by incompetence, I think a combination of both) even though they are not (neither the players, or the manager, Valverde looked almost as terrified as Alba in that video in the halftime on Anfield - everybody in that locker room was lost and thinking about the worst) equipped mentally to do that.

 

[Nazario1985]

Allegri is the same type of breed as Valverde.

Allegri : Reaching CL finals without Messi // making AC Milan look like a real team when it's one of the shittiest in Serie A

EV : can't pass Semis WITH Messi

 

[Barcilliant]

Allegri : Reaching CL finals without Messi // making AC Milan look like a real team when it's one of the shittiest in Serie A

EV : can't pass Semis WITH Messi

Exactly. Yeah, Allegri teams play pragmatic football but e has a personality plus some tactical nous. He's also the only big name manager available. It's not as if Koeman teams play fantasy football and Koeman is 90% likely to be our next manager.

 

[serghei]

Exactly. Yeah, Allegri teams play pragmatic football but e has a personality plus some tactical nous. He's also the only big name manager available. It's not as if Koeman teams play fantasy football and Koeman is 90% likely to be our next manager.

Yea, but he won't fix the boring aspect of our football under Ernie. Juve was a top side with Allegri but their football was often dire as fuck. I've fallen asleep watching Allegri's Juve many times.

You see, the problem with Valverde is not only that we suck in CL the moment we meet a team with top players. It's also that our football is dire if you take out the players' incredible individual executions.

I think we should name a manager who is an upgrade in all areas. Allegri is only an upgrade in 1 of the 3 areas which are currently managed terribly by Valverde.

Won't fix player and youth development, won't fix our crap football. What he'd do is get rid of the insane cowardice Valverde has instilled in the squad, especially when sitting on good leads in CL. It doesn't mean we'd become an away beast in CL, but he'd stop the bleeding in terms of 3-0, 4-0 losses, collective collapses from top to bottom, which clearly show amateurish management.

 

[Alik]

What did he offer to Baern & Man City ? local leagues that EV is more than enough to stock pile them

Beautiful football, vision, integration of new players, no CL embarassments...

If you honestly can't see past results, then I can't help you.

 

[Alik]

Real Madrid have: Vinicius (he's done ok for a 19 year old), Rodrygo (18), Fede Valverde (21), Eder Militao (21), Mendy (24), Odegaard (21), Achraf Hakimi (21), Kubo 18.

They also had Ceballos, Asensio, Kovacic, Theo Hernandez, and now Jovic... I would be wary before hyping Madrid's youth purchases just yet.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Yea, but he won't fix the boring aspect of our football under Ernie. Juve was a top side with Allegri but their football was often dire as fuck. I've fallen asleep watching Allegri's Juve many times.

You see, the problem with Valverde is not only that we suck in CL the moment we meet a team with top players. It's also that our football is dire if you take out the players' incredible individual executions.

I think we should name a manager who is an upgrade in all areas. Allegri is only an upgrade in 1 of the 3 areas which are currently managed terribly by Valverde.

Won't fix player and youth development, won't fix our crap football. What he'd do is get rid of the insane cowardice Valverde has instilled in the squad, especially when sitting on good leads in CL. It doesn't mean we'd become an away beast in CL, but he'd stop the bleeding in terms of 3-0, 4-0 losses, collective collapses from top to bottom, which clearly show amateurish management.

Bingo. Allegri is no solution for us.

 

[serghei]

Bingo. Allegri is no solution for us.

Allegri would've been a very good solution if he was named instead of Valverde post Roma. Sacking Valverde for the Roma travesty, and appoint a manager who shares his style, but is a winner.

1 year Ernie + 2 years Allegri would've been great between 2017-2020. But Allegri is not a manager to reconstruct and rejuvenate a team of Barcelona's profile.

 

[El Gato]

They also had Ceballos, Asensio, Kovacic, Theo Hernandez, and now Jovic... I would be wary before hyping Madrid's youth purchases just yet.

Better having them and moving them on for a respectable fee if they're average, than not having them at all or investing solely in busts.

 

[Andrew M]

Beautiful football, vision, integration of new players, no CL embarassments...

If you honestly can't see past results, then I can't help you.

I think Pep was successful at Bayern for sure, but I'd call the 4-0 thrashing by Madrid in 2014 at the Allianz a fine example of an embarrassment

 

[Rory]

They also had Ceballos, Asensio, Kovacic, Theo Hernandez, and now Jovic... I would be wary before hyping Madrid's youth purchases just yet.

Absolutely but the ones I mentioned have shown quality to be starters at Real except a couple of them. Stark difference to us. Also shows where Real’s heads are at which was the main point. They’re thinking of the future whereas we’re not. If we don’t follow suit they will have a decade of dominance in la liga.