Ernesto Valverde

[Raketa10]

Thankfully I haven't watched the game but I hope some of you finally realized that selection of midfielders is not our main problem. After the loss today I can't wait to read all the stupidity in this forum. Some members will now again claim how Demeble is the biggest flop or how horrible fit Geiezmann is and this is irritating as fuck.

During the last 3 transfer windows we bought:

Demebele - one of the biggest talents in the world of football and we managed not to improve him at all during his time here. He is even worse than he was in Dortmund.
Coutinho - one of top 3 PL players, a guy who is for sure a good fit for Barca but after Valverde destroyed him we LOANED him to Bayern so Rafinha can be our winger today
Semedo - a fullback who was wanted by 90% of members here but now people claim he is worse than Roberto
Griezmann - a fantastic player, ballon d'Or candidate who was together with Messi and Ronaldo best La Liga player in the last 3-4 seasons.
FDJ - biggest midfielder talent in the world, a guy who was a dream signing of every club in the world
Arthur - Brazil NT player who is for sure one of the most talented midfielders out there
Firpo - according to reports best young LB in Spain
Lenglet - a signing who turned out do be a decent replacement for Umtiti
Todibo - a young CB that was wanted by many top teams.

Apart from that we have:

Messi - GOAT
Suarez - people can claim whatever thay want but he would still be a big asset to any team
Alba - one of the best LB's in the world
Mats - among top 3 goalkeepers in the world
Umtiti - probably one of the best CB's out there when healthy (if he can stay fit or not is yet to be seen)
Pique, Raki, Busi - people can claim they are done but all 3 of them would still be in the starting line up of majority top clubs in Europe.
Roberto - he is not a WC player but he is still a decent team player who can help a team when utilized properly, same goes for Vidal.
Alena - he was a big talent but he hasn't improved a bit under Valverde and Puig will probably have the same destiny.

So to sum this up. All of you who clam that we have a shit team, all of you who blame young players for not improving for 2 years or people who think that Coutinho or Griezmann are shit signings should go and watch some other sport because you don't know shit about football. Under ANY capable manager all of those players would excel and youngsters would develop for sure but under this idiot no one can. It's not players fault we have no system and no tactics.

It's clear Barca has TWO big problems and none of those two are players. Problem number ONE is club president who doesn't understand shit about football and problem number TWO is our manager who is on the level of Bilbao or Olympiacos and not Barca. A manager who hasn't improved a single player during his two years here! So we can go and buy Neymar and nothing will change. BBZ and others can also write gazillion of pages about some players being bellow required level but thats far from the truth. Others can claim Rakitic is our biggest problem while not recognizing that's a total bullshit. IN THE END NOTHING WILL CHANGE THE FACT THAT OUR PROBLEM CONSIST OF VALVERDE AND BARTOMEU AND NO ONE ELSE.

While Valverde will probably be gone after this season we are stuck with Bartomeu at least for two more years so I doubt anything will change for better during this time but I for sure won't be the one who will blame players for this shitshow that was brought to us by our bellowed B-V duo.

 

[Leo_Messi]

Utter garbage. Zero intensity. Zero movement. No tactical cohesion. Players played out of position (Griezmann). Valverde trying to reinvent the wheel using the same players that have failed to convince time and time again.

Basically "Barça a lo Valverde".

Truly pathetic stuff. This is supposed to be the most expensive squad in the world.

If Malmierda's plan is to play Griezmann on the "left", we might as well loan him out next year for 20€ million to PSG as he won't succeed in such a limited role for him.

Players like Roberto add nothing. I have no clue what coaches see in him. Such a limited midfielder. Rafinha is/was lightyears ahead of him tonight which should tell everything.

Natural and easy to blame Malmierda but as I have been saying for years, the biggest and most obvious culprit is the cancerous board and their complete and utter lack of a sporting project. Criminal that Malmierda lasted for more than 1 season when it is plain obvious that he is the antithesis of Barça and the Cruyff model or whatever is left of it at the club. Which is another grave problem altogether.
That Roma game should have resulted in a contract termination the following summer.

I would like to know a single player that has improved under Malmierda in the past 2 years? Anyone? What exactly is our system? Is it to be the most static, limited and boring team compared to what the club has been spending on players and their salaries and the same players abilities. Granted, many of our players are a shadow of themselves but nobody is going to convince me that an actual manager would not have done significantly better. At least some kind of useful "legacy" of some sort or something as simple as a coherent and recognizable playing style could have been developed.

I don't recall being this apathetic about the team ever. Not even during the dark years under Gaspart (5 seasons without a single trophy) that I recall from my early childhood, felt this badly for some strange reason. The 2 CL humiliations in a row and the fashion in which they occurred in are not helping at all either.

Anyway my state of mind currently;

 

[jairzinho]

I set my dvr to record the game since i would be in work but i doubt i would watch it when i get home.

Not surprised with all the comments, this team has been in a free fall after the CL exit and Copa Final.

It's sad that Barto and the board failed to see ALL the Red Flags with Valverde during those games.

The guy is clueless and tactically inept.

 

[Total-Football]

there is nothing there.. absolutely nothing. this team is shallow for three years.. there is messi and nothingness besides him.

 

[Marshall D Teach]

Valverde after the game (probably): “Clearly, we need to buy Aduriz”

 

[Devils]

Need to change fast.

We risk falling further down the ladder of European elites with the direction we are going in now.

 

[Givenchy]

the worst part of all this is Valverde isn't even close to being sacked and he knows it. he survived Rome, then somehow he managed to survive Anfield.. the guy is a cockroach.

some of the players are obviously to blame also, so much apathy for players like Alba, Suarez, Rakitic.. i just can't stand them anymore

I was reading some other clubs forums and everyone is in agreement: how the fuck is this average midtable manager still at Barca?

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

the worst part of all this is Valverde isn't even close to being sacked and he knows it. he survived Rome, then somehow he managed to survive Anfield.. the guy is a cockroach.

some of the players are obviously to blame also, so much apathy for players like Alba, Suarez, Rakitic.. i just can't stand them anymore

I was reading some other clubs forums and everyone is in agreement: how the fuck is this average midtable manager still at Barca?

There are no standards anymore. We need to set our standards higher than what Valverde is offering us right now!

 

[raedkuwait]

it just kills me , how lucky this guy is he gets 12 million a year for doing nothing and being so shit, without messi he cant win a thing bfff

 

[Barcilliant]

Haha feels good i did as i promised myself to not waste my time watching this shit as long as fraudverde is here. Ive barely ever missed a game for the past 15 years or so but i just cant stand this shit. Its just insane we kept him after what happened against Roma. Then we thought we would finally get rid of him after anfield but he kept his job. After Valencia everyone thought he was done but nooooo that fuck is still here. Not only did he keep his job, but Messi and the other players went public and supported him. HA! There you go now, you dokt deserve any better.

I hate saying this but this is a perfect start and i hope we keep loosing. It will be better for us in the long run.

Echoes my thoughts exactly.

We need to lose at least 6-7 games in a row and then MAYBE the board might CONSIDER getting rid of Shitverde.

I'm just baffled by the fact that the board and players support this piece of shit.

 

[xXKonan]

The board won't sack him unless he doesn't win the league.

I'm convinced the Board doesn't want to look bad by firing a guy who won the league even if he is so far out of his depth due to fear of backlash by the conservative socis or so. They don't want to look like the bad guys by firing him despite winning the league.

Watch us win the league and Barto gives this clown an extension.

 

[messi2140]

Got posted on r/soccer

 

[tacticvarium]

The biggest cancer in Barça history.

 

[MTL_Barca]

Those posters who blamed the players for the last two seasons, Barca have added De Jong and Griezmann but we are still playing the same shit football. Griezmann looked worse than Coutinho in his bad days.

Just means these players are shit as well. Need to go back to Busi-Raki-Vidal, Messi joining in to carry the team and get the points would surely not be the deciding factor then

 

[Sorin]

Surprisingly quiet from the cheerleaders after such a great performance. Closer to the treble with the result last night I take it.