Ernesto Valverde

Morten

Senior Member
Yes, with a decline die to age and ofcourse peps team was alround great.
Apart from that, it's a steady minutes/goals and minutes/assists ratio with every manager.
So, consistently great with all managers. Again what was your point. That we beat Madrid once without him easily but could not even beat segunda level teams most of the ti e if he didn't bail us out?
Still no reply this, but you have your "issues" with people stalking you and baiting you, so I get the priorities.

Come now, even you don't believe that Messi was as good under Betis-man and Koeman as he was in the 18/19 season under EV.
 

Joan

Well-known member
absolutely hilarious how in these discussions KL pretends like he himself hasnt contributed to all the flaming :lol:

I agree with this! KingLeo's biggest mistake has been engaging with you lot as much as he did. Feeding the trolls was a sure path to what we have now: bunch of threads buzzing with quarrels, insulting - and frankly - boring contributions.

I exclude Messigician here, he's fun. And he needs noone to troll, I value that.
 

BarcaOG

Banned
Yes, with a decline die to age and ofcourse peps team was alround great.
Apart from that, it's a steady minutes/goals and minutes/assists ratio with every manager.
So, consistently great with all managers. Again what was your point. That we beat Madrid once without him easily but could not even beat segunda level teams most of the ti e if he didn't bail us out?
Still no reply this, but you have your "issues" with people stalking you and baiting you, so I get the priorities.

show me your numbers, because i dont buy that for a second. for example: under pep and Lucho, messi scored in CL KO rounds pretty consistently. that declined drastically with EV, setien and koeman

the # of league goals messi consistently scored under pep and lucho likewise are MUCH higher (into the 40s and 60s) than anything Messi did later

OF COURSE these figures would decline as messi aged; there is no debate (nor anything exactly problematic in itself since it is natural)

i just have a hard time accepting the idea that messis stats/output under pep is in anyway comparable to what he produced later. i would really need to see some statistics to confirm
 
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BarcaOG

Banned
I agree with this! KingLeo's biggest mistake has been engaging with you lot as much as he did. Feeding the trolls was a sure path to what we have now: bunch of threads buzzing with quarrels, insulting - and frankly - boring contributions.

I exclude Messigician here, he's fun. And he needs noone to troll, I value that.

glad others see it, you take care now mate :cheers:
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
I agree with this! KingLeo's biggest mistake has been engaging with you lot as much as he did. Feeding the trolls was a sure path to what we have now: bunch of threads buzzing with quarrels, insulting - and frankly - boring contributions.

I exclude Messigician here, he's fun. And he needs noone to troll, I value that.

Stopped replying/"arguing"/"debating" post by post to them quite a while ago but they've added a new dimension to their game - one of them posting something and then the other either likes or parrots it, and then the third, and then the first again, ad infinitum

Look at the state of the Messi thread over the last 100 pages, for example. Rassvet, for example will cite some Madrid papers about Messi...only to cite more Madrid papers about Messi that say the exact opposite 15 mins later...on loop. And then he wonders why people take a stand against that...

The only solution in the absence of moderation is to visit this forum when there's a live match/match chat.
 

BarcaOG

Banned
Stopped replying/"arguing"/"debating" post by post to them quite a while ago but they've added a new dimension to their game - one of them posting something and then the other either likes or parrots it, and then the third, and then the first again, ad infinitum

Look at the state of the Messi thread over the last 100 pages, for example. Rassvet, for example will cite some Madrid papers about Messi...only to cite more Madrid papers about Messi that say the exact opposite 15 mins later...on loop. And then he wonders why people take a stand against that...

The only solution in the absence of moderation is to visit this forum when there's a live match/match chat.

hilarious again you trying to pretend you're innocent/neutral

even the goat Messigician called you out and shut you down last week for trying hard to be the policeman of the forum

youre like Dwight, always assistant to, never manager

assisstant to the moderators :lol:
 

Morten

Senior Member
I agree with this! KingLeo's biggest mistake has been engaging with you lot as much as he did. Feeding the trolls was a sure path to what we have now: bunch of threads buzzing with quarrels, insulting - and frankly - boring contributions.

I exclude Messigician here, he's fun. And he needs noone to troll, I value that.

True that, guy is relentless, if nobody replies to him he will reply to himself with yet another twitter-link.
 

BarcaOG

Banned
which Madrid papers have I cited lol? KL just made that one up to take a shot at me

perfect example

everyone, pay attention

Rassvet has not posted on this thread nor participated in the exchange today

KL for nooooo reason other than to start shit, completely unprovoked, baits him into the discussion


it is important to highlight this because this is what KL does. he baits unprovoked

and when there is a reaction he cries murder

there are classy posters like Wind, Luft, Don Ak and so many others

and there are shit starters posing like classy posters like KL

excellent example this of KL being a hypocrite :lol:

man played himself
 

BarcaOG

Banned
+ i remember when i said lewa is favourite to win the ballon before the copa america he called me a troll and just a few days after Messi won the copa he said Lewa was the best in 2021 :lol:


anyways lets relax all no need for more nonsense :)

cheers all around even to KL :cheers: lets try to be better going forward all of us

for a better barca forum
[MENTION=19457]KingLeo10[/MENTION] what do you say?
 

BarcaOG

Banned
lets make a public pact for all to see

ill happily lay down my arms, and im sure fati and the others are too

KL u game?
 

Joan

Well-known member
Stopped replying/"arguing"/"debating" post by post to them quite a while ago but they've added a new dimension to their game - one of them posting something and then the other either likes or parrots it, and then the third, and then the first again, ad infinitum

Yeah, noticed it that's why I used past tense. It's a good thing, to be honest. You seem to be among the main allergens to which they respond with trolling sprees. Even if not the only one.
 

BarcaOG

Banned
[MENTION=12746]catalinutzR80[/MENTION]

u too mate i dont want any more bad blood, i am sorry for antagonizing u ill not do it again i hope ur doing well btw :cheers:
 

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