Europa League

[Morten]

This United is better than what he had when took over, but dont think they are any better under Hag then they were under OGS a couple of years ago.

 

[jamrock]

The difference is, the people you are targeting would say : Ten Hag fucked up today, they should've beaten Sevilla, they are better than that and did poorly.

When United knocked us out, it was : It can't be Xavi's fault as he had 2 injuries and United are this amazing club that nobody can ever beat.

Yea because losing to Sevilla after spending something like 400m is embarrassing, they're 13th in what everyone tells us everyday is a shit league.

Barcelona losing to Man utd is no big disgrace, the talent gap between those two teams aren't that drastic.

Sure xavi made mistakes, I've personally said he has a lot to learn, but to ignore injures is frankly dumb, entire NBA is making excuses for the clippers are now, why? Because injuries matter.

It's fine margins, but they didn't allow for that, it was all xavi is shit, point blank period.

There was more to it than that.

 

[JamDav1982]

Nah Xavi made huge mistakes v United and it was never the task made out with them being favs etc.

That frustration builds when it is latest in long line of mistakes in Europe.

What is dumb is ignoring Man Utd were said by some to be clear favs before injuries, Man Utd has injuries also and Sevilla beat them today with a team that not one player would get in Barca team.

'Fine margins' is fine if one off.. not when it is only beating Plz in ten games...

 

[jamrock]

Of course. All managers make errors. Klopp was a fecking mess, Nagelsmann got his ass sacked, Flick got set home in the world cup in the groups lol...

Xavi obviously made fewer errors than Ten Hag so far.

Point is... shut the fuck up and give managers time to work out their team's issues. Especially when they are close to give you a big title win for the first time in years.

Exfuckingctly.

But nah let's hold a hard line and act as if a coach in his first full year can't make mistakes.

Just make sure you everyone to that exact same standard.

 

[Gnidrologist]

Two teams left in Europe from Spain and England. It's a draw.
Big grats to Sevilla. So passionate in these knockout matches, even, when not having great season. Wonderful to watch, especially knocking out these PL deuchebag clubs.

 

[BJJ]

Two teams left in Europe from Spain and England. It's a draw. :lol;
Big grats to Sevilla. So passionate in these knockout matches, even, when not having great season. Wonderful to watch, especially knocking out these PL deuchebag clubs.

Kudos to Sevilla. Having a shitty season but still life their game in a high intensity ko tie. We, unfortunately, are the opposite.

 

[serghei]

Exfuckingctly.

But nah let's hold a hard line and act as if a coach in his first full year can't make mistakes.

Just make sure you everyone to that exact same standard.

But it's fucking obvious they just hate Xavi. It's not a hard line at all, they bend the line all the time for managers they like, they simply hate this guy.

Doesn't make sense, but hate is irrational.

 

[jamrock]

Sevilla & Madrid keeping the la Liga flag flying in Europe as per usual.

EPL 1 team lol.

 

[Morten]

Maguire is such a bad luck-charm, he didnt really do much wrong in first leg, but it goes from 2-0 to 2-2 with one being an unfortunately own goal by him.

Starts today and they get schooled, one of the worst transfers ever.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Yea because losing to Sevilla after spending something like 400m is embarrassing, they're 13th in what everyone tells us everyday is a shit league.

Barcelona losing to Man utd is no big disgrace, the talent gap between those two teams aren't that drastic.

Sure xavi made mistakes, I've personally said he has a lot to learn, but to ignore injures is frankly dumb, entire NBA is making excuses for the clippers are now, why? Because injuries matter.

It's fine margins, but they didn't allow for that, it was all xavi is shit, point blank period.

There was more to it than that.

In isolation it's no disgrace yes but the problem is the same thing keeps repeating, with losses to teams around our strength level over and over (Bayern, Inter, Man U, even Frankfurt) that obviously in their respective seasons have all proven they are well beatable and not top level.

Bayern this season have had their worst Buli season for decades and got dismantled by City, but nope too good for us. Man U are fighting for top4 and just got kicked out by Sevilla, have taken a number of humiliating losses this season, nope too good for us. Inter are fighting for top4 in Serie A, nope too good for us.

This attitude of excuses has been prevalent whenever we lose to any team around our skill level, and its not acceptable, we have to be demanding better as the team is clearly capable of doing it if they can top LaLiga by 11 points.

Xavi is not shit but he did approach those European ties poorly.

 

[JamDav1982]

But it's fucking obvious they just hate Xavi. It's not a hard line at all, they bend the line all the time for managers they like, they simply hate this guy.

Doesn't make sense, but hate is irrational.

Fake news.

You are the one that has spent all season saying how much poorer Barca are then Man Utd and Spurs let alone Real.

Now win league and act as if proven right and suddenly Barca are so much better than Man Utd and Spurs etc.

Usual.

 

[JamDav1982]

Sevilla & Madrid keeping the la Liga flag flying in Europe as per usual.

EPL 1 team lol.

Barca.

 

[jamrock]

In isolation it's no disgrace yes but the problem is the same thing keeps repeating, with losses to teams around our strength level over and over (Bayern, Inter, Man U, even Frankfurt) that obviously in their respective seasons have all proven they are well beatable and not top level.

Bayern this season have had their worst Buli season for decades and got dismantled by City, but nope too good for us. Man U are fighting for top4 and just got kicked out by Sevilla, have taken a number of humiliating losses this season, nope too good for us. Inter are fighting for top4 in Serie A, nope too good for us.

This attitude of excuses has been prevalent whenever we lose to any team around our skill level, and its not acceptable, we have to be demanding better as the team is clearly capable of doing it if they can top LaLiga by 11 points.

Xavi is not shit but he did approach those European ties poorly.

I've never made any executes for our lost against Bayern, outside of the fact that lewa, did what lewa does in big games, but they were better than us.


Injuries like I said then & will continue is a legitime factor in the game against inter, even most so than Man U, these are just the facts that anyone who is being rational would see across any sport on the planet, injuries affect teams, that's just the way it is.


But I do concede, like I've done multiple times that their needs to be improvement in Europe.

But for the usual suspects to kill the man for failing in his first full season in Europe is just ridiculous, especially given what he's done in the league.

 

[serghei]

In isolation it's no disgrace yes but the problem is the same thing keeps repeating, with losses to teams around our strength level over and over (Bayern, Inter, Man U, even Frankfurt) that obviously in their respective seasons have all proven they are well beatable and not top level.

Bayern this season have had their worst Buli season for decades and got dismantled by City, but nope too good for us. Man U are fighting for top4 and just got kicked out by Sevilla, have taken a number of humiliating losses this season, nope too good for us. Inter are fighting for top4 in Serie A, nope too good for us.

This attitude of excuses has been prevalent whenever we lose to any team around our skill level, and its not acceptable, we have to be demanding better as the team is clearly capable of doing it if they can top LaLiga by 11 points.

Xavi is not shit but he did approach those European ties poorly.

How about having some patience first? Inter that everyone seems to joke about played in CL last year, unlike us. They barely got eliminated by the finalists after having Liverpool on the ropes at home until the sending off. They also fought for the title until the last rounds, unlike us. The delusional arrogance you need to have to look down on a team like Inter. As if they are some bums. They just schooled Benfica who were undefeated this season in CL.

You give examples about last season, but last season Xavi took the team midseason from 9th fucking place.

 

[JamDav1982]

Inter had injuries and Xavi made poor team selection v Inter.

Were still favs to win that game and go through.

Man Utd had injuries and also Xavi again chose wrong defence.

Made it harder for himself and team with selections and tactics in Europe.