European Super League

JamDav1982

Senior Member

Yes I dont think tv contracts being spread more evenly is good for the league.

Other than making it poorer overall.

Strong Barca and Real are what brings in the tv money and taking 40m of them each to boost others by 4.5m wont help the league which needs a strong Barca/Real in terms of players and competing in Europe.

Other teams benefit from that and none of them will benefit from extra 4.5m a season to improve all that much to point league becomes much more competitive in comparison to top La Liga sides.
 

FCBfan22

Senior Member
Some ESL teams' weekend:

Leeds 1-1 Liverpool
Arsenal 1-1 Fulham
Everton 2-2 Spurs
Atalanta 1-0 Juventus
Getafe 0-0 Real Madrid

:coffee:
 

JPM85

Member
Interesting stuff coming in the next weeks.

Like that the UEFA are put with their backs against the wall, because it?s one big corrupt shit show. What I don?t like, is that the majority of the clubs that benefitted from this shit show, are behind it. Teams like Ajax, Celtic, Rangers, Porto etc should be more vocal to be powerhouses again in European football.

On a side note; the UEFA / FIFA saying they will ban players, it?s a lost cause for them. There is already European ruling, governing bodies cannot ban sporters based on the leagues they perform their sports/profession.

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1102107/eu-general-court-isu-competition-rules
 

Yannik

Senior Member
Yes I dont think tv contracts being spread more evenly is good for the league.

Other than making it poorer overall.

Strong Barca and Real are what brings in the tv money and taking 40m of them each to boost others by 4.5m wont help the league which needs a strong Barca/Real in terms of players and competing in Europe.

Other teams benefit from that and none of them will benefit from extra 4.5m a season to improve all that much to point league becomes much more competitive.

How is that making the league more competetive? Barca and Madrid bringing supposedly more income only for the rest of the league to still get their "fuck off" piece of the cake and to continue being eternally poorer compared to the top. That's just inflating it, and it doesnt even seem to work.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
How is that making the league more competetive? Barca and Real bringing supposedly more income only for the rest of the league to still get their "fuck off" piece of the cake.

I explained it and yes Barca/Real getting more and to an extent Atletico is better for league overall.

Your scenario just makes it weaker.

Your German league with more equal distribution is most uncompetitive league in Europe.

La Liga at least has teams fighting for title every season.

Go ahead and explain how prize money should be distributed for good of La Liga...
 
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Yannik

Senior Member
I explained it and yes Barca/Real getting more and to an extent Atletico is better for league overall.

Your scenario just makes it weaker.

Your German league with more equal distribution is most uncompetitive league in Europe.

La Liga at least has teams fighting for title every season.

PL with equal distribution is pretty much the MOST competetive so I dont think that arguments works very well..
 

Morten

Senior Member
I explained it and yes Barca/Real getting more and to an extent Atletico is better for league overall.

Your scenario just makes it weaker.

Your German league with more equal distribution is most uncompetitive league in Europe.

La Liga at least has teams fighting for title every season.

But, PLs broadcasting deals are more even than Spain, and yet they are not a one-horse league?
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
PL with equal distribution is pretty much the MOST competetive so I dont think that arguments works very well..

Yes and they have a number of big clubs and huge tv contracts where all clubs can receive large sums in comparison to whole of Europe. They also have billionaire backers making it more even also.

Completely different scenario.

If La Liga had a number of hugely supported clubs and massive tv deal to give top teams more than any other club and the rest of them huge money also then compare.
 

Givenchy

Senior Member
not sure if posted yet, saw it on redcafe but

[tw]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Anas Laghari [Secretary general of the Super League]: "Idea of ​​a Super League is not new, the younger generations are less interested in football, focus on the console or something else and only log in for the big games. But these big games rarely happen." [<a href="https://twitter.com/LeParisienSport?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LeParisienSport</a>]</p>— United Zone (@ManUnitedZone_) <a href="https://twitter.com/ManUnitedZone_/status/1384238683096715273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/tw]

reminds me of the decline of the gaming industry
 

Yannik

Senior Member
Yes and they have a number of big clubs and huge tv contracts where all clubs can receive large sums in comparison to whole of Europe

There is no difference. Everyone is competing with each other there regardless of wether they all get 1bn or 1m from the pot. It's not rocket science.
Giving 20 clubs 1m is causing a more competetive framework, than giving 1 club 19m and 19 clubs 1m in total.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
There is no difference. Everyone is competing with each other there regardless of wether they all get 1bn or 1m from the pot. It's not rocket science.

If La Liga could give teams 200m a year in tv money based on finishing position and then give those below that a sliding scale of prize money then that would be great for league.

While also having a number of billionaire owned clubs with owners pumping in cash then La Liga would go down same road.

But they dont. The tv contracts in La Liga are far smaller and 'only' have two global clubs that the whole leagues tv contracts are based on and their quality/viewers.

Taking away 40/50m from Barca and Real to give other teams 4/5m more a season only serves to weaken the teams the tv contracts are based on and not boosting any other teams to any great extent. In fact it could weaken those other teams when tv contracts shrink due to poorer Barca/Real sides.

The EPL and La Liga are completely different. Not even remotely similar situations.

Not the answer and terrible comparison.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
PL with equal distribution is pretty much the MOST competetive so I dont think that arguments works very well..

But EPL has let's say 500m deal while La Liga has 100m.

If you spread it evenly, EPL teams will grow more because they will buy better players than average La Liga teams.

And better players due to more money for EPL will bring them better results in Europe (meaning more money earned) plus better sponsor money, more viewers and new, better Tv deals.

Basically, what happened between Psg/Juve/Bayern vs the rest of French/Italian/German teams would happen in EPL vs other leagues.

A vicious cycle, the gap would only grow larger.
Money attracts new money.
 

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