European Super League

[FinBarcelonafan]

There isnt new revenue, it's just redistribution of existing revenue and market shares.
Broadcast/sponsorship in domestic leagues/UEFA comps will decrease significantly and instead be invest into the ESL, who keep 90% of it and repay 10% of it as "solidarity payments" or whatever which is less than the small clubs would have had if they made just kept their sponsors and broadcasters.

I meant for the future. Right now it certainly wouldn't benefit other clubs. It could make the football even bigger sport. There is a lot of benefit too which people don't see. Probably some damage we don't know yet either.

 

[hardyboy]

If true and more clubs are pulling out, it is going to make a mockery out of ourselves and particularly Florentino Perez.

They can't back out now. Will face a huge penalty if they back out now.

 

[Yannik]

I meant for the future. Right now it certainly wouldn't benefit other clubs. It could make the football even bigger sport. There is a lot of benefit too which people don't see. Probably some damage we don't know yet either.

Football doesnt suffer from a lack of global exposure. It's the most watched sport in the world. It suffers from a lack of fair distribution.

 

[Jenks]

They can't back out now. Will face a huge penalty if they back out now.

Where does this idea come from?

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Football doesnt suffer from a lack of global exposure. It's the most watched sport in the world. It suffers from a lack of fair distribution.

Yet lack of distribution has made Barcelona the most valuable club in the world.

Football could be way bigger in Asia and North America. It's small now.

 

[Luftstalag14]

They can't back out now. Will face a huge penalty if they back out now.

I don't know, nobody knows the exact details and everything we heard is based on some reports and tweets circling around. The ESL website itself is an abomination with little information and content.

 

[Yannik]

Yet lack of distribution has made Barcelona the most valuable club in the world.

I mean yeah, and 99% of other clubs pledged their TV deals during the pandemic to pay employee salary.. That's kind of having a lack of fair distribution. We dont need more billions inflating the market, but structures that help diverting the billions we already have to a wider range of clubs and associations. UEFA hasnt done a great job at it, but this is worse.

 

[Jenks]

"Clause 6.1.1 of a standard Premier League contract relates to employer obligations and dictates the club should not do anything that stops a player featuring for his country. It also states that clubs shall observe the rules, which are defined as “the statutes and regulations of FIFA and UEFA and the FA Rules and League Rules”, meaning in theory any club leaving those competitions would be in breach of contract."

 

[Richard.H]

Might've been already posted here, but what a video! Gary Neville speaking how I feel:

 

[Jadentheman]

Yet lack of distribution has made Barcelona the most valuable club in the world.

Football could be way bigger in Asia and North America. It's small now.

Yes but only because Messi is still playing for Barcelona. Not everyone streams Barca matches or keeps up. But the valuation of the club is because they have one of the best players in the world currently playing for them. Once Messi leaves or retires that value drops massively

 

[ZeRoberto]

But this is going the opposite way of that. Instead of New York Knicks not being able to qualify, these 12 clubs have guaranteed themselves automatic qualification to this super league every season. I agree that the gap in football has been widening already and something needs to change but this is only accelerating that gap, not fixing it.

Lets be honest - you cant shrink this gap in current competitions format under aegis of UEFA. Clubs are companies and companies want to maximize their profits. Reducing that gap would require to impose restrictions on clubs expenditures. However that would endanger incomes of big clubs and they will never allow for this and will protect their advantage they gained thanks to money. Look at my previous post - all big leagues and CL are super predictable. With current state of things anomaly like Leicester will happen maybe once in next 100 years. If someone tried to fix this gap via regulations under UEFA then we would see creation of Super League significantly faster. Priorities of big clubs are completely different from UEFA or smaller club. However its possible for fix situation with new super league. Why? Because closed league without relegations and promotions is proven format(NBL,NHL etc.) that will obviously generate more money for big clubs than Champions League. However it also means that fixing mentioned gap is possible as new league can impose restrictions and give clubs choice - you abide rules and make more money or get the fuck out and compete in less attractive financially formats.

 

[Richard.H]

Also this is a big problem for fans and traveling. I don't know any american sports fans that travel across the country to watch their team play. I highly doubt these fans will constantly travel to other countries and greater distances. With COVID hitting Europe harder, who knows when these fans could even afford to watch matches live. What makes the sport so attractive (at least to me) is that I can pay around 100 euros and get a damn good seat at a Barca game, while there is ZERO chance I even get a ticket for a Lakers or Rams game with 200 USD. Ticket prices obviously will increase due to the whole spectacle of it being a super league.

And lol, domestic leagues will be completely irrelevant. Who would give a crap about it if you are playing a lot of matches in the super league and making a ton more money there? La Liga would just be a tournament to test out new players and formations like in cup competitions.

 

[evilhita666]

What will be the motivation for middle table teams in this ESL? Local leagues offer the chance to play in Europe to these teams, which is an actual achievable goal for them, they have their shot at glory...

But just imagine any of the big clubs in the ESL sitting in 7th or 8th place knowing damn well that their spot is secured due to being founders... They have effectively nothing to play for, unlike a team like Betis or West Ham (currently near CL)...

 

[Richard.H]

I'll start watching a lot more Real Betis games once Puig bosses their midfield next season. I'd love to see him win the CL beating West Ham United. Imagine the scenes as former Barca players Puig, Bartra, and Bravo raise the trophy and take pics.

 

[Adversus]

Honestly not sure how this is going to work.

If UEFA and the national leagues give any player who plays in the Super League a lifetime ban from their competitions then how do any of these teams develop players by loaning them to smaller clubs or sell players that don't work out when there's only 19 other clubs who are allowed to buy them.

They can pay them a lot of money to leave the UEFA pyramid but it would have to be enough for their entire career otherwise even financially it wouldn't make sense to the players.

It's a bit like the threat they will hold their own world cup. They don't have the size to support their own football structure.