Aren't the 12 clubs in some kind of binding agreement?
Sounds like there will be a price to pay if they pull out also, though probably much less then what they are facing.
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Aren't the 12 clubs in some kind of binding agreement?
Sounds like there will be a price to pay if they pull out also, though probably much less then what they are facing.
This whole thing is funny.
The Super League is so bad that now UEFA and FIFA can masquerade themselves as the good guys working for the interest of football.
Perez words and ideas are absolutely revolting. H is clearly expressing his contempt over "lesser clubs" and this whole project is only to ensure the football nobility (they were already working behind the scenes but not they are showing their ugly heads) domination.
The sad thing is the rivalling project of UEFA for their 2024 CL edition is not even better. However, i'll take that over having founding clubs securing a "nobility class" and the absurd repartition of wealth they are planning. I was already against the UEFA coefficient money prize but we can clearly see who was behind it with the way it would work in that Super League.
The Super League is so bad that now UEFA and FIFA can masquerade themselves as the good guys working for the interest of football.
Perez words and ideas are absolutely revolting. H is clearly expressing his contempt over "lesser clubs" and this whole project is only to ensure the football nobility (they were already working behind the scenes but not they are showing their ugly heads) domination.
The sad thing is the rivalling project of UEFA for their 2024 CL edition is not even better. However, i'll take that over having founding clubs securing a "nobility class" and the absurd repartition of wealth they are planning. I was already against the UEFA coefficient money prize but we can clearly see who was behind it with the way it would work in that Super League.
No it won't
European leagues have a long history. I hate this arrogance.
CHL 1992-93 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992–93_UEFA_Champions_League
Where are those 12 super clubs. Nowhere. Europe did just fine and probably even better than now.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Yes there is, which would be these 12 clubs would be banned from all UEFA sanctioned competitions and domestic leagues, if the ESL were to go ahead and become a reality.
If you meant no penalty for merely agreeing to join or signing up for the ESL, which might or might not fly, right, no penalty that I am aware of.
Daemul
previously known as Jonathan28
People need to stop believing what my government(UK) is saying. Boris and the Tories are just as corrupt as anyone, they're talking big to play to the crowd and improve on their polling, but will in the end take the bribe and wave the ESL through. They've done this shit so many times and suckers keep falling for it.
serghei
Senior Member
Exactly. This is already bad enough. I'd ban all of them for a season. And would force Florentino to put a "We are sorry UEFA" on the roof of the new Bernabeu for a year. And ban Barca and Madrid from doing transfers for 2 seasons. No Depay and Aguero for us, no Mbappe and Haaland for them. Sounds fair.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Right, I know many clubs have their own foundations that do charity work, but in our case it is money directly given to UNICEF, on top of/in addition to the other work Barca Foundation does. Again, you might decry 1.5m euros as chunk change and nothing, but still better than nothing and there are many clubs in much better financial satiation than us that have not done that.
fergus90
Senior Member
Clubs like Lyon 'or bums' as you seem to call everything, knocked them out despite having lesser players and a much smaller budget suggests there currently is competition.....
malvolio
Senior Member
yeah, in a one-off game. keep lying to yourself current CL is the best
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Rumor/report has it that there are penalties to be paid by founding clubs to quit/exit the ESL. However I guess that is under the pretense that clubs have received the initial funding/payout from the ESL. I doubt there will be monetary penalties this early in the process if some clubs were to pull out now.
We will see.
Bulgroz
Senior Member
I'm not a specialist, but from what I've quickly gathered, Chelsea gave almost 8M pounds to charity in 2018/2019. I really don't think those 1.5M are as crazy as you think, especially since giving to charity also gets you tax cuts in most countries (gotta admit I'm not a spanish tax law expert, but in France for example you can basically deduce between 33% and 66% of any money given to charity from your taxes). Again, it's a nice gesture, but it's far from being enough to buy morality. Especially when the real reason behind it was to pave the way for shirt sponsors.
KingLeo10
Senior Member
We're talking about the state of the CL in 2021, not 1992. What happened between 1992 and 2021, for better or worse, matters.
But you can keep on thinking the global fanbase will all of a sudden tune in to Red Star Belgrade v Lokomotiv Moscow. In 2021.
fergus90
Senior Member
The current Champions League could do with a revamp no question. But its much better than 12 arrogant club owners thinking their team should be guaranteed qualification and prize money to something every year without having to do fuck all.
Man City lost to Monaco, Spurs and Lyon last few years.
Juventus another supposed top team hasn't got past Lyon, Porto, or Ajax themselves the last few years. Barca got their pants pulled down away to Roma.
Spurs just got knocked out of the Europa League in Zagreb.
Yet somehow they can be immune from having to work for their seat at the table.
Jadentheman
Active member
The one issue is now a precedent has been set. What's stopping clubs from attempting something like this again? Also it essentially awards and approves UEFA/FIFA for all the sketchy things they did because at least "it could be a lot worse to fans".
What global fanbase, of fatties with pizzas in front of the TV or chinese people having dinner in Shangai?
New ages fanbase yeah sure..
Red Star in the semi's would be an absolute fantastic story with passion you can not even imagine on stadium with no clapping quiet money fans, but with real fans.
If you want a fancy football with Beyonce and potato chips then we speak differently
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