European Super League

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Don't kid yourself. If they are able to replace them then they don't want them. They only need them as long as they can't replace them and the end goal is to replace them.

What kind of model do you think they want to turn European football into? They are eliminating the relegation and qualification aspect, same as US sport and have been playing more and more friendlies and want to play actual games away from Europe. That's also what happened with the NFL before they eventually started moving league games away.

Lastly if it's more lucrative to move a team from Liverpool, a poor city to a major European or world city why wouldn't they do it.

Matchday income brought in around 150m for Barca. Where are we going to find an average of 80,000 people attending every home game if we move them to another city or a foreign country?

I know where you coming from with this, I am against the ESL too but I think you are going overboard with implying they will play games away from their home ground and away from Europe.
 

FCBfan22

Senior Member
They don't. FIFA and UEFA are under the jurisdiction of the Swiss Federal Tribunal as far as I know.

This.

And one thing needs to be known. The Čeferin family are heavyweight lawyers. I'm sure Aleksander knows how to handle this legaly. Even more than Flo.
 

Adversus

New member
Your stance at the moment is driven by the fact that Everton can't compete at the European level pretty much under any setup.

That's just an unfortunate consequence of how football progressed over the last century. No reversing that. But the proposal above distributes more money across leagues and to leagues outside the top 5. How you get to the top of your league to get in on this pie is Everton's problem.

No my argument is I don't want teams playing in the same league as my team with vastly different resources due to guaranteed income from other competitions. It's simply unfair and makes a mockery of the competition aspect of the game. That goes for all European football however if these teams were allowed to stay then this would obviously be 10 times worse.

If that means Everton no longer plays in the top European league then fair enough - Everton only got into the European Cup once in my lifetime and Liverpool's ban meant we couldn't even compete. I've long since given up any desire to get into the CL and get whipped by the big European clubs but I would love to see us compete for domestic trophies again and for that to happen I don't want European competition money to skew our league and that would go the same for any new European Cup for the domestic clubs even if we were winning them.

Let UEFA keep the money and distribute it among grass roots or even charity. It will make no difference to us as fans because we will now no longer need to try and keep up with the big European giants in terms of wages.
 

Adversus

New member
Matchday income brought in around 150m for Barca. Where are we going to find an average of 80,000 people attending every home game if we move them to another city or a foreign country?

I know where you coming from with this, I am against the ESL too but I think you are going overboard with implying they will play games away from their home ground and away from Europe.

Because you don't need 80K people at a game. You only need 30K or 40K. Then build them great facilities, food, entertainment, hotels. You are thinking like this won't change football but football is already changing. 100 years ago the grounds held far more people and they were all packed in line sardines standing but that was when it was a working class sport and today those kinds of fans aren't what brings in the money,
 

Morten

Senior Member
Am I the only one who thinks ?The Super League? is a really dumb name? Should?ve gone with something flashy or more arrogant like ?The Elite?.

Its fairly lame, especially considering its the name of like 2-3 top divisions in Europe already.
 

serghei

Senior Member
So at best they can tell La Liga to fuck off with the ban?

I think the most complex case would be if the Maximum Spanish Court gives a decision that is in conflict with FIFA rules. Because RFEF has to respect the Spanish Law more than FIFA rules. They can't apply a decision by FIFA if it is deemed abusive by the Spanish highest court.
 

Adversus

New member
"Make no mistake" isn't really empirical or even anecdotal evidence. Not based on how WCs are marketed. Look at the ads for all of the previous WCs. Stardom is the driving force.

What are you on about. No one watches the world cup because of the players. They watch it because their country is competing in it.

A lot of the top players play for teams that get knocked out in the first round anyway like Salah.
 

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