Fabricio Coloccini

Sewelly

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He's not world class, but I honestly say the only centre backs in the league I'd swap him for personally are Vidic, Kompany and a functioning Ledley King (that doesn't exist, though).

The mistakes thing is blown way out of proportion, the amount of errors he covers for other players outweighs it 10 fold. Only time I can think of where he cost us a goal this season is probably Villa away.
 

Sewelly

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Btw I think there is a shortage of top class centre backs at the moment. I honestly couldn't tell you who I think is the best in the world ATM, where in the past I could straight away.

I'd say Pique but his role is different to almost any other CBs in the world. The most recent generation of genuine world class centre backs are going. Rio is past it, Terry looks past it, Puyol is going, Carvalho is going, Nesta is going, Lucio and Samuel too... where is the next generation?
 

Hatem Ben Arfa

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Ramos is a mug and a thug!

He is only good going forward.

You can skin him if you are actually brave enough. if you do that to him once, he will kick you and get booked and be angry for the rest of the match. If you do it again, he will likely do the same and get a red card. it doesn't take much to get him sent off.
 

RedMadridista

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Ramos is a mug and a thug!

He is only good going forward.

You can skin him if you are actually brave enough. if you do that to him once, he will kick you and get booked and be angry for the rest of the match. If you do it again, he will likely do the same and get a red card. it doesn't take much to get him sent off.


Ramos is a good defender. I think he's better as a defender than a RB.
 

Hatem Ben Arfa

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Coloccini makes BBC Garth Crooks team of the week:

FABRICIO COLOCCINI

Defender
Newcastle United

"I never thought that this defender had the ability to play at such a consistently high level for so long. Without doubt Newcastle's most valuable player and the rock in what was an excellent defensive unit. I thought his reaction when Wayne Rooney clearly took a whack at him while on the floor (regardless of what my colleagues thought on Match Of The Day) was most professional."
 

Hatem Ben Arfa

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Coloccini in the the Top 10 for Most Underrated Premier League Players:

he ranks number 4 in the top 10.

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"The Argentine Newcastle defender has had a brilliant season so far and has been crucial to the Magpies great league form"
 

Hatem Ben Arfa

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Fabricio Coloccini's Newcastle career breaks down into three very different phases.

He struggled in his first season as the club were relegated, then found his feet during promotion from the Championship.

The new club captain is North East player of year for 2011.

Colin Young asked the Argentina defender to give him three Spanish words that sum up each of those three periods of his life and career.

Phase One - Welcome to the Barclays Premier League

Ambicion - Ambition

On my first day I wanted to do well. I watched the squad and saw we have great players, big players. We had Owen, Martins, Duff, N'Zogbia, Beye, Geremi, a lot of good names, and Keegan was the manager. I thought: 'Why shouldn't we win a cup and qualify for Europe?'

Frustracion - Frustration

The first year was hard because I didn't know English football. It was very different to Spanish football. It is more physical, the game is quicker here and it is more tactical in Spain.


Here, it is attack, counter-attack, attack and you have more space because, when the team attack, it is with five, sometimes six players, so you have to defend with four. In Spain games are more defensive so there is more time to recover and you can go forward to press the striker and your full backs and partners come in to support.

The first few times I played for Newcastle, I went forward and then I'd look back and see a big hole and say: 'Whoa, look there, there is a problem.' For the fans to watch, English football is the best in the world. For a defender, if you had a choice, it would be Italian or Spanish football. But I prefer it here.

Tristeza - Sadness

Why? Because we went down. We had a lot of problems, four managers. It was hard for the squad and the club. We tried to do well and, when we were back home, we were sad because we'd lose or we couldn't do what we wanted. When I knew the atmosphere was not good, that was hard.

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Earning his spurs: Coloccini scores against Tottenham

Phase Two - Promotion

Tranquilidad - Calmness

First you worry and then you say: 'OK, relax.' I was worried because we went down, then it was the relief of going back up and knowing the whole plan came together. I didn't think about leaving. We all had the chance but this was not my first option.

I came here because I had always wanted to play in England. When we were relegated, in my head, I wanted to come back to the Premier League with Newcastle, for everyone - for the fans, for the players and the staff.

I didn't want people to look back on my career and say: 'You were relegated from the Premier League with Newcastle, perhaps you were not a very good player.' I wanted to put that right and I knew I had to stay.

Aprendizaje - Learning

It was about learning about the league, learning about England and learning about football here. Everything. In the Championship it is more physical and the difference when you make a mistake in the Premier League is that you are punished, but in the Championship you can make a mistake and may get away with it and not concede a goal. That season helped me. I had to work to be stronger and improve in English football. It was a great experience and it helped me a lot because now maybe I am stronger than when I first came.

Diversion - Fun

It was good. When you win you can enjoy football and life more. We went to some different stadiums and we kept winning - and we did enjoy it, and so did the fans.

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Team spirit: Coloccini and Steven Taylor (right) at Manchester United

Phase Three - Return to the Premier League

Crecimiento - Growth

I have grown up as a footballer and as a person. But everything around has grown too; the club, the level of the team on the pitch, the staff, and upstairs, the boss, who is trying to do the right things. The new signings are exciting and they have settled in, which is one of the key things.

The club have invested well. You can sign a player and find they are not suited to English football. It is very different compared to when I came. The atmosphere at the club is fantastic. In the changing room you have people who are champions and when you have that you push in one direction, and it shows on the pitch.

Regularidad - Consistency

It is no good to play really well in one game and then not in the next. It is about consistency. I won't change because I am captain. I am the same man in the changing room and on the pitch but I enjoy it more because we try to play football more than other years. Sometimes, when we can't play well, we have to play directly and we do that but teams know we can play with the ball on the floor.

Sueños - Dreams

The dream is putting Newcastle at the top level. But that is not for today, or this year, but looking forward. We need to keep at this level all season and then maybe we can think about other things. Of course, it would be nice to be the first captain to lift a cup for Newcastle in such a long time. But maybe we have to put our dreams not too high. Now we are growing up and improving and we want to get to 40-45 points and then we can dream of better things.
 
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Hatem Ben Arfa

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you may not want them, but if you bought them, you wouldn't want to trade them for anyone else. especially Coloccini.

Tiote is amazing, all Newcastle attacks begin with him. He's a creative ball keep ball possession and defensive midfielder all rolled into one. utterly fantastic. ALWAYS looks to play it out from the back, and is not affraid to do so under pressure from opposition in dangerous areas. when he plays, us Newcastle fans are like NO NO NO NO WTF ARE YOU DOING, GET RID, BOOT IT CLEAR, and then he goes and proves us wrong by doing a couple of Xavi turns and pivots and skill, keeps possession and plays an intelligent pass forward that puts us on the front foot. he's amazing.
 

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