FC Barcelona B (Barça Atlètic)

[Ritchie]

that has more to do with the policy of getting the best out of messis remaining years and the subsequent focus on buying polished players instead of developing youngsters.

theres the same amount of talent coming through youth ranks as before only difference is the step from b team to first team is more difficult now.

It's more difficult to make first XI, but not difficult to become a squad player. We've been crying out for full backs to compete with Alves and Alba and ended up playing Roberto (a B team graduate but a midfielder) there this season and Adriano is still getting minutes.

We're desperate for players who can offer something as back up to MSN, looked to the B team this season and Munir and Sandro haven't took their chance so are forced to look at the likes of Nolito instead.

Rafinha and Roberto have shown this season that the rewards are there.

 

[xXKonan]

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According to Gerard Romero Samper isn't going anywhere.

 

[Alik]

What a fantastic failure the team turned out to be.

 

[slk123]

It's more difficult to make first XI, but not difficult to become a squad player. We've been crying out for full backs to compete with Alves and Alba and ended up playing Roberto (a B team graduate but a midfielder) there this season and Adriano is still getting minutes.

We're desperate for players who can offer something as back up to MSN, looked to the B team this season and Munir and Sandro haven't took their chance so are forced to look at the likes of Nolito instead.

Rafinha and Roberto have shown this season that the rewards are there.

I get your point but adriano is a good example. no matter how raw grimaldo still is doubt he would have done worse in his minutes. yet LE prefers a player who looks like he doesnt even care anymore.

with munir and sandro it seems they were just lucky that we couldnt buy a replacement for pedro. I get the impression the players the club really wants to develop are those sent out on loan. few years ago players like denis or halilovic would already have been those squad players you're missing now.

 

[khaled_a_d]

I get your point but adriano is a good example. no matter how raw grimaldo still is doubt he would have done worse in his minutes. yet LE prefers a player who looks like he doesnt even care anymore.

with munir and sandro it seems they were just lucky that we couldnt buy a replacement for pedro. I get the impression the players the club really wants to develop are those sent out on loan. few years ago players like denis or halilovic would already have been those squad players you're missing now.

LE gave many players chance with 1st team ,Munir & Sandro was counted on from the pre-season of 2014 . and we promoted them b4 Pedro left and LE had huge faith in them
Same with Rafinha whom he gave huge trust even from his days at Celta ,same with Roberto .he also gave Samper & Gumbau chances with 1st team
Nevermind that Lucho is Barca B greatest ever coach .He knows better about situations of Barca B players more than any other
It is easy to blame him and say he should gave Grimaldo because no way he would be worse than Adriano .but the truth is there is always worse

 

[slk123]

LE gave many players chance with 1st team ,Munir & Sandro was counted on from the pre-season of 2014 . and we promoted them b4 Pedro left and LE had huge faith in them
Same with Rafinha whom he gave huge trust even from his days at Celta ,same with Roberto .he also gave Samper & Gumbau chances with 1st team
Nevermind that Lucho is Barca B greatest ever coach .He knows better about situations of Barca B players more than any other
It is easy to blame him and say he should gave Grimaldo because no way he would be worse than Adriano .but the truth is there is always worse

you got me wrong here, not blaming lucho for anything. just stating that imho the club set the bar higher for b team players to get promotion and that they are more inclined to send them on loan before integrating them in the first team and that thats the reason why it seems b team isnt producing squad players anymore. not even surprised by that since the expectations for the first team are higher than ever before.

still think munir and sandro got lucky there was a ban and pedro left. or unlucky in munirs case cause he probably would have profited from more time with the b team, bojan krkic says hello. and adriano is dead weight, absolutely shocking how he's playing compared to a few years back.

 

[BBZ8800]

theres the SAME amount of talent coming through youth ranks as before only difference is the step from b team to first team is more difficult now.

That's not true.
(Ok, true about Ateam being better today, but...)

Again, La Masia was average for the 98% of time over the last 100 years.
We were only producing good in the last 10-15 years.

Now, since we are banned for buying younger players from all over the world, and since we will have to rely mostly on Spanish and EU kids in the future, it is highly probable that:
= La Masia will be equally as good/bad as Real's, Man. Utd's or Juve's school in the future

I mean, let's be honest.
If Real Madrid's youth school isn't consisted of idiots, and if Juve's or Chelsea's school also isn't consisted of idiots.
Then, if Real, Chelsea and Juve are producing 0-1 top youth talents in 5 years, then why are we expecting that Barca will produce Xavis and Messis on regular basis? Aka, why are we expecting that our school will produce better players than any other football academy in the world?

I mean, we all love our club and La Masia, but what some of our fans believe is a pure nonsense.
We don't have golden eggs in La Masia, and random kids in La Masia aren't better/smarter/more gifted than random kids in Real's or Chelsea's youth school.

Again, there IS A REASON why La Masia was poor/average for 100 years in the past.
Golden era was just a lucky era.

And some fans are now buying the hype how La Masia and our teaching techniques are turning random local kids into Messis and Xavis each season.
Something like Asterix's magic poison-style.
(We either have magic techniques or our local kids are more talented than any kids in the world.
None of those two makes too much sense.)

Our B-coaches aren't that stupid.
Our board isn't that stupid.
Majority of our youths are just average.
The same as any random average generation from Real, Milan and Juve.

 

[slk123]

actually I was responding to someone claiming that b team is crap because there hasnt been anyone notable joining first team since sergi roberto and I was arguing that thats probably because we tend to send out players on loan instead of promoting and develop them ourselves. all in argument against b team is crap nowadays. Wasnt about ranting, wasnt about glorifying every unproven talent.

Im following the b team for nearly 10 years now and can asure you the ranting or glorifying has been the same 10 years ago and I dont care much for either. still there was a higher tendency to promote or play b team players few years back, not the end of the world, just observing

 

[Ritchie]

few years ago players like denis or halilovic would already have been those squad players you're missing now.

These are still players that were bought from abroad at 17/18 for a few million each as top prospects. You'd expect to make a squad player out of them within a couple of years if developed right. It's the lack of players coming through the ranks, which forces the club to make signings like that or like Nolito/Vidal.

And it won't be as straightforward to develop Halilovic or Denis for Barca's team because they've come through the ranks at other clubs and aren't used to Barca's style. Going out on loan won't help that process either.

 

[Galning]

Anyone got a stream for today's game?

 

[Ritchie]

Again, there IS A REASON why La Masia was poor/average for 100 years in the past.
Golden era was just a lucky era.

And some fans are now buying the hype how La Masia and our teaching techniques are turning random local kids into Messis and Xavis each season.
Something like Asterix's magic poison-style.
(We either have magic techniques or our local kids are more talented than any kids in the world.
None of those two makes too much sense.)
.

The 1987 generation was freakish but there was stacks of real quality players born throughout the 70s and 80s that came through La Masia.

Then into the 90s. Look at the quality players born 89-93 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Masia

It's really dried up with the mid-90s born players.

 

[El Flaco]

When will the game start?

 

[Galning]

When will the game start?

3 minutes ago.

 

[Galning]

@Youngcules
Barça B vs Pobla Mafumet:
- Just 4 La Masia players in the XI.
- Just have 38% of possession.

Is this even an FC Barcelona team anymore?

Leading 0-1 after a mistake by the goalkeeper.

 

[SeloBarca]

found a stream?