FC Barcelona Finances

[khaled_a_d]

What is this nonsense? We got rid of all the fat contracts, with the exception of the De Jong contract.

And they wrote that we are at the level of 450 million. How much more is required? Disband the entire squad? Why does Bayern have a total payroll of only 250 million if they have more highly paid players than we do. I'm confused.

Can anyone explain?

They have Sane, Mane, Gnabry, Coman, Kimmich, Neuer, Muller, Hernandez get a lot of money. How so?

Transfer fee amortisation.
Essentially if you buy a player for 50M on 5 year contract, it is considered 10M each year in salary.
A they renew, remaining amortization is usually spread.

So all of those in bold combined for less amortization than Kounde for example
You add Raphinha, Lewandowski along FDJ.
Also, Busquets is owned 15M deferred wage or so, Alba is paid 40% of salary.

Obviously, no one on Internet knows the actual numbers, but those are important factors

 

[jamrock]

It's all la Liga and tebas BS.

We'll gotten rid of
Griezmann
Coutinho
Pique
Busquets
Alba

Yet we still aren't where we need to be, what does the club have to do, sell everyone else?.

 

[Messi983]

To make things clear.

250m is the difference between salary cap limit at start of current season (656 m on July 1 2022) and where we have to be at start of next season (400 m on July 1 2023), so we can get back to the 1:1 rule. Apparently still about 50m short but one good sale can change that.

 

[khaled_a_d]

To make things clear.

250m is the difference between salary cap limit at start of current season (656 m on July 1 2022) and where we have to be at start of next season (400 m on July 1 2023), so we can get back to the 1:1 rule. Apparently still about 50m short but one good sale can change that.

The thing is, are we on 400M in 24-25 season?
Rule changes last November is essentially a "sustainability " rule. We have to prove we can hold same current wages next season.
So 1 sale might make us 1:1 for next year but we might still struggle with registration of players.
Obviously there will be no more deferred salaries in 24/25, back to Camp Nou again, FDJ renewal should be on the table, slashing his amortization etc. Still not easiest of battles.

 

[Porque]

Betis also struggling with meeting salary cap next season. Punished for trying to grow. Obviously you can't have the fluctuations the club has gone through in the salary cap swings season per season with any logical resonance. It needs to be tiered or even better, capped at 10%+/- swings season to season. That would be a better long term system.

Meanwhile Chelsea can spend 600m, finish midtable and still have room to spend.

 

[Rory]

Don't understand the whole salary cap stuff. If our salaries cost us x amount and all other costs added to that are less than our revenue we bring in then what's the issue?

 

[Don Juan Laporta Estruch]

Another year of Tebas austerity , or in laymans terms what is often referred to as ' only let my team Madrid spend money ' and La Liga will fall to the 5th best league in Europe. Standard is already the worst it's been, maybe ever. Gracias Javier 👏. Here's to long term growth 🥂

 

[Luftstalag14]

In all honesty, it is good that La Liga is not budging and relaxing whatever rules they have to accommodate Messi or an any specific player. Once you make an exception, it renders the rules useless. Not fair to other clubs, whatever if they argued that "we too should be allowed to have an exception to bring in XYZ..."? More importantly, it is good for us to keep the salary mass down within a reasonable (but also comparable and competitive) range, we can't get back to the vicious cycle of having ballooning salaries and selling assets again. Not to mention soon we will all have to comply with UEFA's new FFP.

Of course, to this date I still don't know how they calculated and assigned the salary cap numbers for each club and how Madrid can have always twice as much as ours.

 

[jamrock]

Not a matter of just signing Messi, it's about signings in general, after all the steps the club has made over the past 2 years.

These rules are very anti Barcelona, even if all the other clubs in la Liga have to go by the same rules, at it's core the rules were made to screw us over.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Not a matter of just signing Messi, it's about signings in general, after all the steps the club has made over the past 2 years.

These rules are very anti Barcelona, even if all the other clubs in la Liga have to go by the same rules, at it's core the rules were made to screw us over.

We agreed to these rules. If we can't adhere to them, it is really our problem. Of course, if La Liga has unilaterally changed the rules without buyin from the clubs, it is a different matter.

 

[khaled_a_d]

In all honesty, it is good that La Liga is not budging and relaxing whatever rules they have to accommodate Messi or an any specific player. Once you make an exception, it renders the rules useless. Not fair to other clubs, whatever if they argued that "we too should be allowed to have an exception to bring in XYZ..."? More importantly, it is good for us to keep the salary mass down within a reasonable (but also comparable and competitive) range, we can't get back to the vicious cycle of having ballooning salaries and selling assets again. Not to mention soon we will all have to comply with UEFA's new FFP.

Of course, to this date I still don't know how they calculated and assigned the salary cap numbers for each club and how Madrid can have always twice as much as ours.

2 things:
1-Rules should have been relaxed for everyone during Covid, it hurt la Liga so much that it wasn't and it's consequences will have a long lasting effect.

2-Rules were changed in November, specifically to counter Barca moves, they made using levers useless, they made 1:4 useless too. It was a targeted changes.

And while I actually think those rules are indeed good, it should have never happened because of one club either. Just like exception should never happen for a single player

 

[jamrock]

2 things:
1-Rules should have been relaxed for everyone during Covid, it hurt la Liga so much that it wasn't and it's consequences will have a long lasting effect.

2-Rules were changed in November, specifically to counter Barca moves, they made using levers useless, they made 1:4 useless too. It was a targeted changes.

And while I actually think those rules are indeed good, it should have never happened because of one club either. Just like exception should never happen for a single player

Exactly on both.

 

[Luftstalag14]

2 things:
1-Rules should have been relaxed for everyone during Covid, it hurt la Liga so much that it wasn't and it's consequences will have a long lasting effect.

2-Rules were changed in November, specifically to counter Barca moves, they made using levers useless, they made 1:4 useless too. It was a targeted changes.

And while I actually think those rules are indeed good, it should have never happened because of one club either. Just like exception should never happen for a single player

Agreed on both. I don't see how and why La Liga was allowed to unilaterally change the rules, is that power given to them by the clubs?

 

[khaled_a_d]

Agreed on both. I don't see how and why La Liga was allowed to unilaterally change the rules, is that power given to them by the clubs?

No, Tebas asked for a vote, and clubs vote with majority for it. IIRC they decided to not even invite Barca and RM as they knew they will vote no (I might be mixing things).
Doesn't make it any better, majority can't nitpick one club.
Could have lost Gavi for free thanks to such changes.

 

[Luftstalag14]

No, Tebas asked for a vote, and clubs vote with majority for it. IIRC they decided to not even invite Barca and RM as they knew they will vote no (I might be mixing things).
Doesn't make it any better, majority can't nitpick one club.
Could have lost Gavi for free thanks to such changes.

I see. Majority rules in a democracy, I suppose, not much we can do.