FC Barcelona Finances

[Messi983]

The thing is, are we on 400M in 24-25 season?
Rule changes last November is essentially a "sustainability " rule. We have to prove we can hold same current wages next season.
So 1 sale might make us 1:1 for next year but we might still struggle with registration of players.
Obviously there will be no more deferred salaries in 24/25, back to Camp Nou again, FDJ renewal should be on the table, slashing his amortization etc. Still not easiest of battles.

I think so. But SCL is calculated before every season (and also after January TW but that's not so important) so it could be lowered again by next year.

What could change though is the club operating under the 1:1 rule instead of the 1:4 we're under now. Not sure if already this summer but I think we'll be there by summer 2024 or maybe in January.

 

[Don Juan Laporta Estruch]

So Madrid have now spent 180m net in the last two seasons and about to spend another 100m on a striker whilst the rest of the league is using recycled toilet paper and people think this is legit??

They had a debt of 900m pre-COVID and apparently they are the only non EPL club that hasn't been financially strangled by COVID? All the while whilst spending 100s of millions on their new stadium.

Why are people not questioning this? It's clear the numbers are not adding up.

 

[Deco]

Barcelona did use 158m this season. Must have some of the same numbers this year to use in the transferwindow?

 

[Messi983]

Last year we could only spend that money because of the levers. Won't be the same this year.

 

[Luftstalag14]

So Madrid have now spent 180m net in the last two seasons and about to spend another 100m on a striker whilst the rest of the league is using recycled toilet paper and people think this is legit??

They had a debt of 900m pre-COVID and apparently they are the only non EPL club that hasn't been financially strangled by COVID? All the while whilst spending 100s of millions on their new stadium.

Why are people not questioning this? It's clear the numbers are not adding up.

Not sure where you got the 900m debt figure from, if that includes their newer debt on the new Bernabeu it would make sense (I think they had a debt of around 400m or so before if I am not mistaken).

They have been able to maintain a relatively lean wage mass and the blow to their coffer due to COVID was much lighter compared to us (they stopped taking in as much money as we did, but managed to offset that by reducing cost I believe), hence not resulting in a big loss on the balance sheet which led to them having a much higher salary cap than everybody else.

But again, I don't know how they calculated the wage cap and how Madrid can have THAT much more than everyone else. Nobody seems to be able to answer that question.

 

[Porque]

They were pretty creative with the accounts of the stadium renevation and offset it with the "income" of their facility management alliance with Sixth Street.

Something that had we done, LaLiga would probably scrutinize to the nth degree, and not accept as 100% income. Just as they judged with our rights sales.

It doesn't make sense how ours balloon so much, nor that LaLiga expect you to sign players on long term contracts YET have the salary caps fluctuate annually with short term economics.

Well, Madrid have managed their way around it by Florentino being both more connected and effective than Bartomeu. And if there ever were points of contention, I guess Barca never pursued it due to staying on the Super League Titanic with Perez.

 

[Luftstalag14]

They were pretty creative with the accounts of the stadium renevation and offset it with the "income" of their facility management alliance with Sixth Street.

Something that had we done, LaLiga would probably scrutinize to the nth degree, and not accept as 100% income. Just as they judged with our rights sales.

It doesn't make sense how ours balloon so much, nor that LaLiga expect you to sign players on long term contracts YET have the salary caps fluctuate annually with short term economics.

Well, Madrid have managed their way around it by Florentino being both more connected and effective than Bartomeu. And if there ever were points of contention, I guess Barca never pursued it due to staying on the Super League Titanic with Perez.

True, I remember looking at Madrid's numbers a few years back during COVID and questioned how the heck they came up with some numbers. Quite perplexing to say the least.

Florentino Perez is simply much better than Rossell, Bartomeu and Laporta when it comes to running a (business) ship, in all regards, I'd say.

 

[NKMaribor]

So Madrid have now spent 180m net in the last two seasons and about to spend another 100m on a striker whilst the rest of the league is using recycled toilet paper and people think this is legit??

They had a debt of 900m pre-COVID and apparently they are the only non EPL club that hasn't been financially strangled by COVID? All the while whilst spending 100s of millions on their new stadium.

Why are people not questioning this? It's clear the numbers are not adding up.

Madrid net spent in last two years is 100M, while being negative in last decade. Add to that healthy wage bill.

Not exactly a rocket science.

 

[soul24rage]

I'm sick of this FFP

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667931481166028800

 

[Porque]

Find a cure for those bags and Tebas will move our FFP to 200%

 

[jamrock]

Sport giving a breakdown of out current wage bill.

Which stands at 530m euros.

this number includes 90M euros from teams outside the first, ( basketball, women's team etc).

It also includes 50m from players who are currently out on loan, umtiti, dest, lenglet etc.

It also includes if the translation is current griezmann wages, which is maybe 30m euros, I'm not sure if the translation here is correct but seems that way.

https://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/masa-salarial-530-millones-88622280.

Best numbers I've seen yet, of the actual situation re our wages structure, apparently they intend to cut wages on the basketball team back dramatically.

So if we can get rid of these players on loan and trim the wage bill outside of the first team by 10-15m, we would be at around the 470m euros mark.

According to Swiss ramble, real Madrid wage bill is around the 480m euros mark, if we get ours down to 470-480m, by the end of the summer, I wanna see what tebas will come with next to fuck us over.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1576820777256902656

 

[Luftstalag14]

I don't get it, why are we paying the wages of those players out on loan? I mean, in cases few and far between this does happen, especially for those younger players and prospects we desperately want to give chances to play so they might come back one day being better, but the likes of Umtiti, Lenglet and Dest? Are we that bad to negotiate loan deals that we are giving other teams essentially free players, waged included??

 

[khaled_a_d]

I don't get it, why are we paying the wages of those players out on loan? I mean, in cases few and far between this does happen, especially for those younger players and prospects we desperately want to give chances to play so they might come back one day being better, but the likes of Umtiti, Lenglet and Dest? Are we that bad to negotiate loan deals that we are giving other teams essentially free players, waged included??

If I get it right, those are players under contract and it is about Wages of next season. So it is normal they are counted as they are under contract with FC barcelona for next season.

 

[Luftstalag14]

If I get it right, those are players under contract and it is about Wages of next season. So it is normal they are counted as they are under contract with FC barcelona for next season.

Thanks, that makes more sense. We really need to negotiate with potential buyers and loaning clubs to get them off the book.

 

[soul24rage]

I don't get it, why are we paying the wages of those players out on loan? I mean, in cases few and far between this does happen, especially for those younger players and prospects we desperately want to give chances to play so they might come back one day being better, but the likes of Umtiti, Lenglet and Dest? Are we that bad to negotiate loan deals that we are giving other teams essentially free players, waged included??

It could also be the case where the club wants them to get regular football (especially in the case of Umtiti) so that their performances can attract potential buyers rather than for them sitting in the bench the whole season.

Not the best case scenario but it is something.