Francesc "Tito" Vilanova

Richard.H

Senior Member
But the point is at this point anything might look better because of hindsight!

And Enrique hasn't used the same system as Pep in Barca B or in Roma so what are we talking about? If we look back a few weeks, it would look like a clusterfuck to appoint Enrique out of nowhere, especially given Roura was just suppose to be a stand-in for a few weeks.

So, if you were there looking at perhaps a 3 or 4 week absence, could you arrange for a suitable replacement to to free and agree?

You have to take risks if things start to seriously crumble. I'm sure 90 % of this forum will be screaming for another interim manager if Barca somehow loses to Deportivo. You can't blame the general reactions either.

I'm sure if Rossell and Zubi are smart enough, they are already interviewing potential interim managers in case things go badly. You can't have things get much worse than they are now. If they do, Rossell and Zubi would be heavily criticized and heavily disliked by the general Barca crowd if they don't do anything about it.


You constantly have to change and adapt in life. This is a big thing that even Pep stressed during his tenure at Barca. At some point in time, everything loses its novelty.
 

Arachnid

New member
But the point is at this point anything might look better because of hindsight!

And Enrique hasn't used the same system as Pep in Barca B or in Roma so what are we talking about? If we look back a few weeks, it would look like a clusterfuck to appoint Enrique out of nowhere, especially given Roura was just suppose to be a stand-in for a few weeks.

So, if you were there looking at perhaps a 3 or 4 week absence, could you arrange for a suitable replacement to to free and agree?

Yeah, that doesn't mean that hindsight doesn't exist. People makes correct decisions to avoid future troubles all the time- and when they make the wrong ones, they are held accountable.

And of course suitable replacements would agree to get paid for a short term job. That's what the figure of interim manager was made for. Not only that, the chance of having 'former Barcelona manager' in their CV would be enough to have people queuing up for the job.
 
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beautifulgame

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Mantras and general advice is fine but no concrete resolution has been offered.

Now, your probably right, they are perhaps considering alternatives no that they probably have Tito's blessing given that his treatment has been extended and the club is having trouble. That's probably one of the big reasons Sandro went to NY to meet with Tito.
 

Arachnid

New member
The very point of an analogy is to explain a point to another. Your comparing a principal replacing a teacher to finding a stand-in coach at Barca? Seems legit.

Well... yeah? A coach has to explain things to a group of younger people, so they can apply their knowledge to real life? Sounds like a pretty accurate analogy, to me?

I'll concede when one of you offer a reasonable explanation of coach and circumstance in which it would have worked given we go back a few weeks in time. One that keeps in mind the original stand-in was only for a 3 or 4 weeks at most.

I don't understand what you are saying. Look, if you, yourself, were the owner of a small football club, the one in your neighbourhood, whatever, and your manager took a temporary leave of absence, you wouldn't probably take the risk of going manager-less even for a week, because you would be responsible for winning any point that could stop you from being relegated.
 

Arachnid

New member
Now, your probably right, they are perhaps considering alternatives no that they probably have Tito's blessing given that his treatment has been extended and the club is having trouble. That's probably one of the big reasons Sandro went to NY to meet with Tito.

I hope so. I hope they are thinking of, I don't know, bringing in a third to allow Roura and Altimira to offload some work, at the very least. Still, nothing Rosell said yesterday makes me think the man has any clue about what to do.
 
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beautifulgame

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all your posts show is that oversimplify the circumstance to back a claim.

For instance, "a coach has to explain things to a group of younger people, so they can apply their knowledge to real life."

yes, put most simply but if you do truly believe that is the extent of the situation then we aren't going to be able to communicate on the issue so i'll quit because your either trolling or see the landscape in vastly too simplistic terms for the nuanced discussion that is required.
 

Arachnid

New member
all your posts show is that oversimplify the circumstance to back a claim.

For instance, "a coach has to explain things to a group of younger people, so they can apply their knowledge to real life."

yes, put most simply but if you do truly believe that is the extent of the situation then we aren't going to be able to communicate on the issue so i'll quit because your either trolling or see the landscape in vastly too simplistic terms for the nuanced discussion that is required.

Trolling? What are you talking about? You are a manager, you make a gameplan, you explain the players what to do during the match to apply said gameplan. Therefore comparing a manager to a teacher is hardly far-off. What did I say that wasn't completely reasonable?
 
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Flavia

Guest
Tito was seen in NY, watching a Nadal game:

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He's looking well, that's great :)
 

ricknattery

New member
Our season is basically over, not much to save it unless a miracle happens against Milan.
What I'm most worried about is next season. As much as I'd like for Tito to continue being our coach his health is a liability now, something similar might happen next season and we will just throw to the garbage 2 seasons of the best generation in this club. Someone needs to make important decisions and should do it now, Rosell and Zubi are destroying a winning generation by not having the balls to make the necessary arragements
 

Garrus

New member
This is a winning generation because of the play style pep brought, And the tito is the best man who can continue this, There are no other coaches in the world who are experienced in the way we play, Bringing a big-shot coach will mean abandoning what made us successful all these years, And even if this new coach was asked to only make minor changes, Then what is the point of bringing him in the first place, If only small adjustments needed then tito is more than qualified.
 

ricknattery

New member
Tito is no Pep
The players are as much or more important than the system, and we need to reinvent ourselves. I agree the system is perfect for them but if not the prime goods are the players tehmselves. Tito made it clear we won't change our style, when he was asked about Falcao. Small adjustments are indeed needed but Tito wants more of the same
 

psychotsek

Member
His chemo hasn't started yet? Isn't there hair loss at this stage?

Hair loss comes after third,fourth or even later session.
Hopes he gets well soon stay relapse free for him and for Barca.
That said club should definately start looking for a replacement given his condition.
 

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