Francesc "Tito" Vilanova

[spring]

hope resign! it wasn't matter if we lost with a game like last year in front of chelsea! he didn't try any thing for scoring! maybe he was afraid about more goals of bayern!
i don't like to say this but i wish jose! and because it's impossible, hope to kloop!

 

[Flavia]

Well, Tito is not leaving. All we can do is support him and hope he has learned something from all this.

 

[Povikas]

Not buying CB's
Not rotating and overplaying Xavi, Puyol etc.
Not giving enough chances to youngsters like Tello, Montoya and Bartra
Not changing tactics (persisting with false 9 against strong teams)
Not benching under performers like Pedro Pique etc.
Failing against every big team except Milan 2nd leg
Doubts about his health and ability to lead the team

Do tell me why shouldnt Tito resign?

Because he's the second best coach in the world for us.

 

[spring]

Well, Tito is not leaving. All we can do is support him and hope he has learned something from all this.

unfortunately he will not learn!

 

[Stric]

Pep should've brought on a cb when he got cesc and alexis. So yes, the defensive problem was inherited and worsened.

Yet, while Pep was here, the defense was working much better, and was working well enough until he left. Tito had the chance to buy a CB and he didn't want one. It's ridiculous to pin any of it on Pep, when Tito had the opportunity to take care of it and didn't. He made this mess himself.

 

[spring]

Yet, while Pep was here, the defense was working much better, and was working well enough until he left. Tito had the chance to buy a CB and he didn't want one. It's ridiculous to pin any of it on Pep, when Tito had the opportunity to take care of it and didn't. He made this mess himself.

 

[DennyCrane]

Well, Tito is not leaving. All we can do is support him and hope he has learned something from all this.

May I ask what makes you so sure about that ? It's not that I want him to leave or something like that; but don't you see the potential of our board now going bonkers and look for a scapegoat ? And the rumours that Rosell himself wasn't really happy with the idea of making Tito the coach in the first place might tip the balance here.
I mean, simply from a 'political' standpoint, there have to be consequences. The board has to do, well... something.

 

[Tomchin]

Yet, while Pep was here, the defense was working much better, and was working well enough until he left.

We simply had better defenders back then. Puyol >>>> Bartra and Abidal > Alba (defensively at least).

Tito had the chance to buy a CB and he didn't want one. It's ridiculous to pin any of it on Pep, when Tito had the opportunity to take care of it and didn't. He made this mess himself.

Pep was the main advocate of using a DM at CB (Mascherano). Probably because Pep tried to sign a lot of CBs in his first few years (Henrique, Caceres, Chygrinski, ...) and none of them worked out.

 

[SeloBarca]

unfortunately he will not learn!

OR rather, the whole freakin leadership that keeps on sweeping everything under the rugg. I hope the Barcafans living in Barcelona demands some changes aswell, they can make a bigger impact then we can here on this forum, clearly they cant be satisfied with Barcelona this year either.

Pep was the main advocate of using a DM at CB (Mascherano). Probably because Pep tried to sign a lot of CBs in his first few years (Henrique, Caceres, Chygrinski, ...) and none of them worked out.

Yea, Pep werent to good on signing new players either.
Now we have alot of players that are way to secure on their spots in the first team. Pique knows he can play crap, he will still be selected for the first team, same with Busi, Xavi, Iniesta and Alves. Who even dares to bench Messi?

There has to be a coach that takes charge, demands of players to give their all forr the team or be benched.

Pep was a hero to many of the players, beeing a Barcalegend. That in itself was a huge motivator for the players, the players listened to him.
Tito is an assistant type of personality, not a leadertype, he works best when hes complemeting someone.

 

[Yaya]

The offensive started to go down the last months of Pep era. Tito havent been able to change anything, but instead now the whole team has lost all their inspiration and motivation to work for eachother.
Its like noone wants to win and its just anotehr day at work.

Barcelona needs a coach with new fresh ideas, not someone that works in the same tracks as Pep like some kind of shadow. Someone that are great at motivating, that is as active on the sideline as Pep was

I call BS. It was just Pedro and Villa being injured and all other forwards other than Messi missing chances left and right. Remember the Chelsea games? Those was shot galores by Barcelona, just couldn't convert much. Barcelona was still playing great football with Pep in charge on both sides of the pitch.

 

[Stric]

We simply had better defenders back then. Puyol >>>> Bartra and Abidal > Alba (defensively at least).


Pep was the main advocate of using a DM at CB (Mascherano). Probably because Pep tried to sign a lot of CBs in his first few years (Henrique, Caceres, Chygrinski, ...) and none of them worked out.

Puyol was here for the better part of the season, yet Tito the mastermind decided to (over)use him in all kinds of completely irrelevant matches, and Bartra played 79 minutes up until a few weeks ago. Abidal was out twice during Pep's era, as well, yet he managed to do without him. And he didn't have Alba around to play LB. Mascherano was bad early this season, and instead of benching him, Tito did nothing. Again, Bartra in the stands. Tito deliberately buys Song, a CM/CDM type of player, who has never ever been a CB, and decides to use him as CB instead of Bartra.

Yet it's Pep who's responsible for these problems.

 

[Jaykob]

I hope Tito recovers from his health issues but really think it would be the best for all parties if he resigns after this season.
If he stays another season the era of this great team really could be over.

I'd like to repeat what a lot of people here said, barca played alot better last season although there where early sings of decline which a attribute to lack of drive due to complacency.

To those who said the false nine is dead, it worked because other players exploited the space created by messi dropping deep, which is not happening this season, the wide players moved inside, which is not happening this season.

Pressing is a lot worse this season, the defence which may not include players with classical defensive attributes (eg,Mascherano ) worked because of the relentless pressing and the high line, most of the time penalty box defending was not needed because the ball was already won back in midfield.

Under Vilanova, the "hunting in packs" style of pressing is non existent,players press individually and the whole team plays deeper which allows teams to directly expose the defence which is a reason why they are looking so weak this year.


I truly hope the board does react, even though it is a difficult situation, firing a man who is fighting for his life, but something has to change.

As for new managers, maybe Villas-Boas would be an option, he would play a similar style while still bringing in fresh ideas.

 

[darthvader7888]

I hope Tito recovers from his health issues but really think it would be the best for all parties if he resigns after this season.
If he stays another season the era of this great team really could be over.

I'd like to repeat what a lot of people here said, barca played alot better last season although there where early sings of decline which a attribute to lack of drive due to complacency.

To those who said the false nine is dead, it worked because other players exploited the space created by messi dropping deep, which is not happening this season, the wide players moved inside, which is not happening this season.

Pressing is a lot worse this season, the defence which may not include players with classical defensive attributes (eg,Mascherano ) worked because of the relentless pressing and the high line, most of the time penalty box defending was not needed because the ball was already won back in midfield.

Under Vilanova, the "hunting in packs" style of pressing is non existent,players press individually and the whole team plays deeper which allows teams to directly expose the defence which is a reason why they are looking so weak this year.


I truly hope the board does react, even though it is a difficult situation, firing a man who is fighting for his life, but something has to change.

As for new managers, maybe Villas-Boas would be an option, he would play a similar style while still bringing in fresh ideas.

I think he should be made assistant manager again, rather than get fired. I agree with you though, we've been shit tactically and motivationally (both of which are the coach's job) in big games this season, and I'm gonna have to put the blame on Tito. Tito fighting for his life or having just returned in the big games may have had an impact, so I may be being a little harsh, but I think getting a new manager and making him the assistant manager again is the best solution for all parties. We did well with him as an assistant manager (though I don't think we'll ever really know how good of an assistant manager he really is). Plus, I think he'd welcome a less stressful job after what he's been through.

 

[MrXavi_The_Midfield_King]

I hope Tito recovers from his health issues but really think it would be the best for all parties if he resigns after this season.
If he stays another season the era of this great team really could be over.

I'd like to repeat what a lot of people here said, barca played alot better last season although there where early sings of decline which a attribute to lack of drive due to complacency.

To those who said the false nine is dead, it worked because other players exploited the space created by messi dropping deep, which is not happening this season, the wide players moved inside, which is not happening this season.

Pressing is a lot worse this season, the defence which may not include players with classical defensive attributes (eg,Mascherano ) worked because of the relentless pressing and the high line, most of the time penalty box defending was not needed because the ball was already won back in midfield.

Under Vilanova, the "hunting in packs" style of pressing is non existent,players press individually and the whole team plays deeper which allows teams to directly expose the defence which is a reason why they are looking so weak this year.


I truly hope the board does react, even though it is a difficult situation, firing a man who is fighting for his life, but something has to change.

As for new managers, maybe Villas-Boas would be an option, he would play a similar style while still bringing in fresh ideas.

No way. we are in a transitional period and we are still coming away with the La Liga, we have been cursed with injuries and also the our decision not to reinforce areas such as our Centre backs has cost us (not getting a Centre back was in my opinion was suppose to be a tool to motivate players like Pique to show that he believes in him and the youngsters)

 

[Jaykob]

I think he should be made assistant manager again, rather than get fired. I agree with you though, we've been shit tactically and motivationally (both of which are the coach's job) in big games this season, and I'm gonna have to put the blame on Tito. Tito fighting for his life or having just returned in the big games may have had an impact, so I may be being a little harsh, but I think getting a new manager and making him the assistant manager again is the best solution for all parties. We did well with him as an assistant manager (though I don't think we'll ever really know how good of an assistant manager he really is). Plus, I think he'd welcome a less stressful job after what he's been through.

I would have no problem with him being assistant manager , but i highly much doubt that he will let himself be demoted, totally unrealistic imho. His resignation would be the best for everyone involved and he could concentrate on fighting cancer