Franck Ribery

[Luftstalag14]

Imo, this year no player has really stand out. As they count the calendar year for the bdor. Messi's injuries are really annoying, he'd be the clear winner again, if not for them. Right now I think ribery is the one likely to win it.

What I don't get it is that a couple of months ago Ribery was not considered a serious contender for the Ballon D'Or, and all of sudden he is. What changed? Messi's injuries? However despite his injuries, Messi still had a very good season so far (both in terms of stats and performance I'd say) in 13/14. And Ribery so far in the 13/14 season? Slightly above average I'd say, nothing outstanding.

Again, if Ribery wins it he is riding the Bayern hype train. I don't think he had that stand-out of a year compared to other Bayern players.

 

[Flavia]

Again, if Ribery wins it he is riding the Bayern hype train. I don't think he had that stand-out of a year compared to other Bayern players.

If he wins it, it's because of that. Neither Messi(for injuries) nor cr had an impressive year, and it's already october.

 

[BarcaGirl]

If there is a Bayern player who deserves to win the Ballon D'or, it's Lahm and no one else. Ribery wasn't even that good in the CL ...Müller and Robben were better than him.

 

[footyfan]

Ribery will win it, people here seem to underrate him so much. Here's what Mario Gomez had to say:

"Bayern do not depend on any individual players. Their game only slightly changes when Franck Ribery isn't there,"

"All the others can be replaced without too much trouble."

http://www.givemesport.com/382331-mario-gomez-only-ribery-safe-at-bayern

Ribery is consistently the player who creates the most danger in Bayern. If Bayern could be compared to Barca 3 years ago, the only player who can be Messi is Ribery. Lahm and Schweinsteiger are consistent the way Xavi and Iniesta are

 

[Paganinisrvnge]

How many points did Barca lost in the league when Messi was injured? And we were dreadful with or without Messi.

That is a terrible argument. Did you watch any matches last season? There had to have been AT LEAST 5 or 6 matches in the league alone where Messi saved the day with a late winner. Remember the hat trick vs Deportivo?

Also, Barcelona would have been knocked out by Milan in the round of 16 if it weren't for Messi and then again in the quarterfinals vs PSG if it weren't for a half fit Messi coming on and making the play that led to equalizing goal to win the tie on away goals.

 

[pEllee]

Wow, this is really stupid. For the 54th time, he did not have a good CL campaign, which is the only single reason why he'd be considered. Jesus.

It's an individual award, they should always go to the a player who had the best individual year. To say that Ribery did is just...stupid. Is he so good in the build-up play that you can argue against Messi or Ronaldos ridiculous records? No, of course he isn't.

If you want to give it an attacking player, it's Messi or Ronaldo. If you want to give it to a defender, then just give it Thiago Silva.

 

[Maria]

That is a terrible argument. Did you watch any matches last season? There had to have been AT LEAST 5 or 6 matches in the league alone where Messi saved the day with a late winner. Remember the hat trick vs Deportivo?

Also, Barcelona would have been knocked out by Milan in the round of 16 if it weren't for Messi and then again in the quarterfinals vs PSG if it weren't for a half fit Messi coming on and making the play that led to equalizing goal to win the tie on away goals.

1.It's not a terrible argument when you say that Messi won the league by himself. Busi, Iniesta, Cesc, Adriano, Alexis played important parts for this title.
2.The hattrick against Deportivo was last year, not this one.
3.Against Milan and Psg Valdes, Busi and Mascherano were just as important as Messi.

I think it's incredible how so many people are denying that Ribery had an amazing year and they say that he is 'riding the Bayern hype' and then are arguing that Messi has won everything by himself.

If there is a Bayern player who deserves to win the Ballon D'or, it's Lahm and no one else. Ribery wasn't even that good in the CL ...Müller and Robben were better than him.

Using this argument Messi should give his first BdO to Xavi or Iniesta.

 

[Paganinisrvnge]

1.It's not a terrible argument when you say that Messi won the league by himself. Busi, Iniesta, Cesc, Adriano, Alexis played important parts for this title.
2.The hattrick against Deportivo was last year, not this one.
3.Against Milan and Psg Valdes, Busi and Mascherano were just as important as Messi.

I think it's incredible how so many people are denying that Ribery had an amazing year and they say that he is 'riding the Bayern hype' and then are arguing that Messi has won everything by himself.

1. The only person on that list who was influential for the entire season was Iniesta. Cesc fell off, Alexis only really played well in the end, Adriano was on and off, and Busquets was below his standard due to injury in the last few months.

2. That still contributed to the points of winning the league. There are many other matches that he was pretty much the only reason the team one. The term "Messidependencia" wasn't created for nothing.

3. They were certainly important but Messi scored the first 2 goals against the Milan including the first within like 5 minutes which set the tone for the match and then against PSG he came on half injured and still saved the team from getting eliminated.

Ribery has been really good but so was Schweinsteiger, Martinez, Lahm, Muller, Dante, Neuer, etc. Bayern have been and still are a better overall team than Barcelona. Messi is the only reason Barcelona even got that far to get destroyed by them.

 

[Luftstalag14]

If he wins it, it's because of that. Neither Messi(for injuries) nor cr had an impressive year, and it's already october.

I'd argue that both Messi and CR7 have had an impressive year (maybe not by their super standard, but certainly by the universal standard). The only thing lacking is their respective team's record and result.

Again, if that's true that means Ballon D'Or should come from a player from the team that has the best record/won most trophies. Then it really is a TEAM award. Ribery simply doesn't stand out that much.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Ribery will win it, people here seem to underrate him so much. Here's what Mario Gomez had to say:





http://www.givemesport.com/382331-mario-gomez-only-ribery-safe-at-bayern

Ribery is consistently the player who creates the most danger in Bayern. If Bayern could be compared to Barca 3 years ago, the only player who can be Messi is Ribery. Lahm and Schweinsteiger are consistent the way Xavi and Iniesta are

I'd argue that Schweinsteiger is much more important to Bayern's success than Ribery.

Anyway, scoring wise, does anybody have the Bayern stats? Did Ribery have the most goals of our Bayern players? How about assists? I watched every single Bayern game, I just don't remember him being that productive and vital, even if we were only speaking attacking-wise.

 

[Flavia]

I'd argue that both Messi and CR7 have had an impressive year (maybe not by their super standard, but certainly by the universal standard). The only thing lacking is their respective team's record and result.

Again, if that's true that means Ballon D'Or should come from a player from the team that has the best record/won most trophies. Then it really is a TEAM award. Ribery simply doesn't stand out that much.

It's not black and white. There isn't a rule saying the player has to be on the team with best record or that won more trophies, or Messi wouldn't had won it last year. But when there's a lack of individual brilliance (and imo no player really had a stand out year), people tend to turn to the best team to pick a player.

 

[Indignado]

What I don't get it is that a couple of months ago Ribery was not considered a serious contender for the Ballon D'Or, and all of sudden he is. What changed? Messi's injuries? However despite his injuries, Messi still had a very good season so far (both in terms of stats and performance I'd say) in 13/14. And Ribery so far in the 13/14 season? Slightly above average I'd say, nothing outstanding.

Again, if Ribery wins it he is riding the Bayern hype train. I don't think he had that stand-out of a year compared to other Bayern players.

What changed is him and others constantly talking to the media how good he is

 

[spark]

I still think Messi will win. Look at the votes from last year or the 3 years before that, its pretty consistent in the leaning towards Leo whoever the new candidate might be against him, whether its Sneijder, Iniesta or Cristiano. not many of those captains or coaches will suddenly think Ribery is the best player in the world and that will be enough for him to win a 5th.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/bal.../98/07/84/fboawardmenplayer2012-bycountry.pdf

Fifa haven't yet revealed the finalists so its not a foregone conclusion that Ribery will be one.There is every possibility that Ribery might not even be top three. It wouldn't be surprising if someone like Neymar sneaked in as the number three option after Messi and Cristiano post Confederations cup.

 

[Raed]

Of the four Ballon d'Ors, Messi didn't deserve two and he doesn't deserve this one at all. Ribery or Robben earned it, fair and square.

 

[Cule4life]

Ribery is begging for the award just like CR has done over the years. I don't understand this obsession with individual awards.