Gerard Deulofeu

[abual3bed1]

Like Rafinha's move to Celta. Perfect choice.

 

[Aryagorn]

If Deulofeu can't force himself a spot in Everton... forget him ever doing it at Barca! Martinez under pressure or otherwise!!
Besides, what pressure is Martinez facing? He worked with far less funds at Wigan and he actually managed to get more silverware for Wigan than Moyes did for Everton!!

 

[fcbdna]

If Deulofeu can't force himself a spot in Everton... forget him ever doing it at Barca! Martinez under pressure or otherwise!!
Besides, what pressure is Martinez facing? He worked with far less funds at Wigan and he actually managed to get more silverware for Wigan than Moyes did for Everton!!

+∞

 

[Xtroverto]

Like Rafinha's move to Celta. Perfect choice.

Exactly, Rafinha has resonable competition so he will get his chances. Deulofeu on the other hand has to much competition and is a loan player, so he has to be better than all the other club players he compete with, and he will not get second chances when he screw up. If he get 20 min in one game and he screw up the he will be benched for the next 10 games. Martinez has no time to daddy with Deulofeu like Eusebio had to do all the time, Martinez has to get results or he will get the foot.

Besides, what pressure is Martinez facing? He worked with far less funds at Wigan and he actually managed to get more silverware for Wigan than Moyes did for Everton!!

At Wigan it was okey to fight in the relegation zone every season, at Everton he is expected to fight for a european cup place, anything below top 10 is a fiasco for Everton.

 

[barcanuck]

Still 50+ more matches he can play in lads don't worry.

 

[Jenks]

Exactly, Rafinha has resonable competition so he will get his chances. Deulofeu on the other hand has to much competition and is a loan player, so he has to be better than all the other club players he compete with, and he will not get second chances when he screw up. If he get 20 min in one game and he screw up the he will be benched for the next 10 games. Martinez has no time to daddy with Deulofeu like Eusebio had to do all the time, Martinez has to get results or he will get the foot.

Everton aren't blessed with forwards. He doesn't have a huge amount of talent in front of him. Don't worry, for cup games he'll be a shoe-in.

 

[S7_MUFC]

Moral of the story? Don't send players to Martinez. We gave them Ryo for a year and all he did was sit on the bench, even when he played well in the couple of times he was allowed on the pitch

He did good job with cleverly...........

 

[gunnerthoughts]

One great thing Man United did with Pique was including a condition in his loan agreement to Zaragoza that he must play a certain at least 20 games - he went on to play 22. It's surprising clubs don't try to use this more. Nothing more frustrating than a young, talented player going out on loan and not getting the minutes he requires to develop.

 

[DonAndres]

If Deulofeu can't force himself a spot in Everton... forget him ever doing it at Barca! Martinez under pressure or otherwise!!
Besides, what pressure is Martinez facing? He worked with far less funds at Wigan and he actually managed to get more silverware for Wigan than Moyes did for Everton!!

There's no "forcing" a spot in a team unless you get adequate chances to show what you're capable of. A player can impress in training, but it's bullshit to think that managers automatically feel more confident picking a player after only seeing him do better and work harder in training. They pick him if they feel they can use him in the next game, based on what they've seen in matches. If they haven't been willing to gamble playing Deulofeu often enough to see what he's got, then they'll feel less and less sure to play him in the future.

They'll take a gamble in cup games, which is when he'll get to showcase himself and finally get some trust from Martinez. But until then, there's very little being the best "training player" will do to earn him a spot, hard work is important but coaches trust comes from what you do on the pitch.

 

[Jenks]

They might play him in the U21 league too.

 

[Aryagorn]

There's no "forcing" a spot in a team unless you get adequate chances to show what you're capable of. A player can impress in training, but it's bullshit to think that managers automatically feel more confident picking a player after only seeing him do better and work harder in training. They pick him if they feel they can use him in the next game, based on what they've seen in matches. If they haven't been willing to gamble playing Deulofeu often enough to see what he's got, then they'll feel less and less sure to play him in the future.

They'll take a gamble in cup games, which is when he'll get to showcase himself and finally get some trust from Martinez. But until then, there's very little being the best "training player" will do to earn him a spot, hard work is important but coaches trust comes from what you do on the pitch.

Well if he does well in training he will at least get his first chances right? Considering he is the reincarnation of MEssi himself, may be he will need just those few chances to prove his worth to Martinez and therefore earn his palce in the team!!

 

[ivan22]

did he play for everton yet?

 

[abual3bed1]

Not a single minute in the 1st 2 rounds of the season.

 

[Butaan4barca]

did he play for everton yet?

NOt a single minute in an official game as yet.

 

[ivan22]

thanks. Strange that they gave him the #10 though. hope to seeing him play soon everton is playing a small club in the capital one cup tomorrow, so I hope he'll get a chance to play!