Cristiano Ronaldo said that the La Liga defenders where far weaker than the premiership and he's played against both so I think his opinion is worth more than yours.
Where did I say anything to the contrary of this?
But I'm not bashing Deulofeu. I think he's brilliant however he's still just turned 20. Barca are one of the top 3 teams in world football and I'm comparing him to your standards which are the highest they can be.
You seem to rate us a lot higher than we do.
But you're wrong anyway. He wouldn't be starting every game if we owned him. Barkley who's the same age and possibly, in fact probably (btw you should see the goal he scored tonight) is better at the moment and he doesn't play every game.
Barkley doesn't have nearly the potential Gerard has, though, and from what I can see Barkley is a midfielder, while Gerard plays on the wing, a position in which Everton is very weak in.
I think the problem is that when our team is fully fit you don't realize the level we're at - which quite frankly isn't too far off the leaders.
Whether you're as good as Liverpool, Chelsea, and City is up for debate (Not really, but I'll spare your feelings), but that's not relevant to Deulofeu's development by any means. If anything, you being as good as you claim is just another reason why Gerard should return to Spain.
If you think what he needs is an ego boost being the star man playing every week at a mid table La Liga side or meaningless minutes for Barca then fair enough but I think that's the last thing he needs.
Who said anything about an ego boost? The kid is going to have an ego either way, it's in his nature. That ego would vanish were he to return to Barca, until he establishes himself as one of the top dogs, and then it will return. You don't just make an arrogant person not be arrogant by sitting them on the bench.
And if anything is meaningless, more or less this entire loan spell with Everton has been just that. He tracks back now to help the defense. Yay. Now why can't he get any minutes? All you do is try to knock him down to convince us we should be on board with him returning to Everton. His play is at it's usual fantastic level and he now has a solid defensive workrate. We can handle his development from here, and he is OUR player, not yours. Sending him to a club in Spain so he can adapt to the league and play a style of football more similar to what he'll get from Iniesta, Xavi, and Messi will only do him good, "Weak defenders" or not.
Pienaar is an average player, I agree. But he's experienced and retains the ball.
I also agree that we've changed our tactics in the last couple of games to be a counter attacking team but quite frankly the Everton fans have been crying out for that. Playing the Barca style is difficult when you're faced with breaking down good defences. Look what happened to Barca against Bayern last season. Sometimes it makes more sense to play on the counter and quite frankly I'm delighted Martinez has shown he's not a one trick pony and can adapt to the teams he's playing against which I wasn't too sure he could. It made total sense to play that way against Swansea (a very good possession team) and Newcastle away. Plus we won both games scoring 3 goals in each game.
So why can't Deulofeu play again?
How exactly have we been inconsistent? The only team to have less defeats than us is Chelsea and the 3 games we lost around January where due to all our injuries and even then they where all away from home and Chelsea scored in the last minute and Spurs with their only attack of the game. We've won the last 4 since then.
Inconsistent in your performances. A 0-0 draw shouldn't happen at Crystal Palace when you're fighting for a top 4 place. You've scraped by with a lot, and I do mean a LOT, of 1-0 victories. You've been far from convincing, and tuning in every week to see our brightest prospect play and only seeing him for 5-10 minutes week after week, month after month, is tiring, especially with the sloppy wing play I have to put up with when watching Pienaar and Miralles.
But back to the point. Minutes weren't the purpose of the loan. Developing the player was.
The playing time clause in the loan contract says otherwise.
Have you watched all his games in the premiership? There's been games where he's been frustrating to say the least and been owned by those defenders. Watching him play for a youth team doesn't give you any idea what he could do against professionals. How many goals did Bojan score for Barca B?
Since you previously arbitrarily brought Ronaldo up allow me to do the same. Have you seen all of Ronaldo's games? There are games where he, too, is frustrating, even to the legions of Madridistas who bow down to him. He, too, gets owned by defenders and even goes games without scoring a single goal or grabbing a single assist! And I'm not just talking about vs Barca, either. By the way, Barca B do play professionals (Zaragoza, Mallorca, Almeria, Valladolid... teams that often find themselves in the top flight of Spain), and by the way, Bojan barely played for Barca B.
My point is not every game is going to be perfect, especially from a young player playing outside of his comfort zone. We could develop him here just fine. The notion that we have too many wingers is false. We have three, with a lot of wingers who are rarely if ever used. If Tata wanted to he could easily find space for him. We could also send him to a La Liga side who would get him far more valuable experience as a starter.
btw - The overall standard of the premier league has probably stayed the same if not actually improved. Even from a technical point of view it's moving much towards La Liga with teams like Arsenal, Everton, Swansea and Southampton playing a high pressing possession based game. It's just the teams at the top haven't kept pace with the top teams in Europe because they soak up all the money but that's the reason why it's the most competitive league in the world with everyone beating everyone on their day.
Arsenal has lost 7-0 to Liverpool and 6-0 to Chelsea. The only case of this "Anyone can beat anyone" myth is with Manchester United, and on that front it's more of a "Anyone can beat United if they try hard enough". There are the occasional upsets, but then, the same goes for La Liga. It's hard to say if the BPL is the most competitive league right now simply because of how much of a mess it is. Chelsea leads but they have two games on hand over 2nd place, and one over third. Everton has a game on hand over Arsenal but trails by 6. On La Liga's side it's clear how tight it is. The champion very well could be decided by Head to head competition.
Barca B are the youth development team for Barcelona plus I took it from FCBarca's comment that he was talking about since the he was a kid.
Thank you so much for informing us of this.
Messi would bang them in wherever he played, as did Ronaldo and Bale. Messi is one of the greatest if not the greatest players ever but that irrelevant. The premier league is a much more physical league where defenders are actually allowed to tackle unlike La Liga which is quite frankly a bit like Basketball in the sense that it's non-contact. Attacking players can have a field day in La Liga however it's not really about the players but rather the referees and the culture of the game. It's actually interesting that in one of Deulofeu's first games he got brought down and showed an imaginary yellow card to try and get the player booked and the opposition team had a go at him. Martinez basically said that in the premiership players don't do that and that's something he has to learn.
Ignorant English fan detected. I wonder if you've ever even watched a single La Liga game with comments like this.
But it will do Deulofeu good. If he can learn to turn it on against the top defenders of the premiership he will come back to you and be one of the best just like Ronaldo did for Real.
Oh yeah, right. Deulofeu will be much better at beating Sergio Ramos and Pepe because he developed beating the "Top defenders" in nameless Crystal Palace defender #1 and nameless Crystal Palace defender #2. Unless you're saying he'd be playing against Chelsea and Man City... in which case, I call bullshit.
Also just remember. His two best games, at home to Stoke and tonight where against young inexperienced defenders.
So?
I would keep doing this but all your posts are basically the same. You clearly have no clue whatsoever and just really want Deulofeu to stay.
