Gini Wijnaldum

[Luftstalag14]

Don't dress him in PSG colors yet. Reports say player has not decided yet.



They are the most pathetic club ever.
They are still doing their thing, playing with Barca.

If Laporta is the strong president he wants to be, he should make a bold statement here, and not take this lightly.
We should stop being the clown of Europe at the institutional level as well that Bartomeu made us

What can Laporta do, even if PSG did this to fuck with us (we can't prove it anyways)? They didn't do anything wrong legally or even ethically some might argue, they sent him a higher offer that we can't match, there is nothing wrong with that. It is business after all.

There is nothing Laporta can do or should do.

 

[Birdy]

What can Laporta do, even if PSG did this to fuck with us (we can't prove it anyways)? They didn't do anything wrong legally or even ethically some might argue, they sent him a higher offer that we can't match, there is nothing wrong with that. It is business after all.

There is nothing Laporta can do or should do.

MAybe there is nothing he can do officially/legally to stop or retribute this, since there is no legal framework to prevent this.

But he can do a lot in the political power game and dynamic between clubs in Europe from now on to make sure it's not OK to hijack a Barca transfer

PS: Even though about the legal framework, it's not 100 that he can't do anything.
Remember when idiot Barto hijadked Malcom's transfer to Roma?
Monchi, back then, threatened with legal action

 

[Rory]

PSG killed football with the Neymar and Mbappe transfers so this is nothing.

 

[Birdy]

Sure, but this is not related to FFP and stuff.

It's about hijacking targeted at a specific club, which constitutes a hostile behavior that violates certainly the spirit of the sport.
Action should be taken for this to become a legal violations also, and if there is will among top clubs it can be done

 

[Luftstalag14]

MAybe there is nothing he can do officially/legally to stop or retribute this, since there is no legal framework to prevent this.

But he can do a lot in the political power game and dynamic between clubs in Europe from now on to make sure it's not OK to hijack a Barca transfer

PS: Even though about the legal framework, it's not 100 that he can't do anything.
Remember when idiot Barto hijadked Malcom's transfer to Roma?
Monchi, back then, threatened with legal action

What political power? We are the outcast in European football right now because of the ESL fiasco, while Nasser Al-Khelaifi is the chairman of the ECA now. If we had any power it has dwindled a lot.

Anybody can hijack our deals or outbid us last minute as long as the other party (the player and the agent etc.) didn't break or breach a legally binding contract. As you pointed out, we hijacked Malcolm from Roma and some might say we did the same to Bayern by getting Dest (It was said that Bayern was leading the chase and reached a personal agreement with Dest, however we came in late and submitted an offer to Ajax and got Dest because both Ajax and Dest preferred us, something like that). As long as there was no official, legal-binding contract signed, anybody is free to come in last minute to outbid another club and change the player's mind.

Nothing Laporta can do.

 

[DonAK]

They are the most pathetic club ever.
They are still doing their thing, playing with Barca.

If Laporta is the strong president he wants to be, he should make a bold statement here, and not take this lightly.
We should stop being the clown of Europe at the institutional level as well that Bartomeu made us

What do you want Laporta to do lol?

The best thing he can do is to tell Wijnaldum to take our much lower offer or leave it.

 

[Morten]

What political power? We are the outcast in European football right now because of the ESL fiasco, while Nasser Al-Khelaifi is the chairman of the ECA now. If we had any power it has dwindled a lot.

Anybody can hijack our deals or outbid us last minute as long as the other party (the player and the agent etc.) didn't break or breach a legally binding contract. As you pointed out, we hijacked Malcolm from Roma and some might say we did the same to Bayern by getting Dest (It was said that Bayern was leading the chase and reached a personal agreement with Dest, however we came in late and submitted an offer to Ajax and got Dest because both Ajax and Dest preferred us, something like that). As long as there was no official, legal-binding contract signed, anybody is free to come in last minute to outbid another club and change the player's mind.

Nothing Laporta can do.

Thats the silver lining, at least we are bringing you guys down with us.

 

[DonAK]

You cannot be serious if you believe they should be pissed about PSG wanting to sign Wijnaldum and offering better terms. This is literally how the free agent market works. Multiple team usually make contact. A few might offer concrete terms or a contract offer.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Thats the silver lining, at least we are bringing you guys down with us.

I think we are still a tad better than you guys in the eyes of the ESL-hating European football ecosystem because of your Florentino Perez, the mastermind and the face of the ESL fiasco, although probably not much better.

That said, political power from clubs doesn't matter that much in my opinion these days, what can clubs or the ECA do really? Lobbying UEFA to abandon FFP or make rules and regulations that benefit certain clubs? I doubt it.

 

[Birdy]

You cannot be serious if you believe they should be pissed about PSG wanting to sign Wijnaldum and offering better terms. This is literally how the free agent market works. Multiple team usually make contact. A few might offer concrete terms or a contract offer.

Wijnaldum has been on the free agent market since at least 6 month ago, when it was certain he is not renewing with Liverpool.
PSG had all the time in the world to prepare their super-offer and contact him.
Why didn't they do it all that time, but they do it now that it is leaked all over the press that the player has reached a personal agreement with Barca and the medical will be scheduled next week?

Nothing to do with free agent market.
Everything to do with pety chairmans and clubs who want to take again revenge in their primitive way of understanding things

What political power? We are the outcast in European football right now because of the ESL fiasco, while Nasser Al-Khelaifi is the chairman of the ECA now. If we had any power it has dwindled a lot.

Anybody can hijack our deals or outbid us last minute as long as the other party (the player and the agent etc.) didn't break or breach a legally binding contract. As you pointed out, we hijacked Malcolm from Roma and some might say we did the same to Bayern by getting Dest (It was said that Bayern was leading the chase and reached a personal agreement with Dest, however we came in late and submitted an offer to Ajax and got Dest because both Ajax and Dest preferred us, something like that). As long as there was no official, legal-binding contract signed, anybody is free to come in last minute to outbid another club and change the player's mind.

Nothing Laporta can do.

The whole middle paragraph is the perfect description of why some stage of the negotiation should become legally prohibited for other clubs to enter in.

As for the political power, sure he has power as ECA chairman.
But there are many cards Laporta can play. At least there are people of power in football that detest the 'new oil money' attack of Qatar and Dubai.
There are coalitions he can make and actions he can take now or in the future, not directly related to transfers, to get the message across
At this level, Laporta is a shrewd politician.

 

[Rory]

Birdy you're surely not surprised to learn that PSG are a club run by absolute cunts?

 

[Birdy]

Birdy you're surely not surprised to learn that PSG are a club run by absolute cunts?

No, not surprised at all.
Just angry that this still goes on, and especially against Barca

 

[Rory]

No, not surprised at all.
Just angry that this still goes on, and especially against Barca

Frustrating for sure, especially the timing and the fact we can only get free transfers this year. I'm sure as a big club we've done more than our fair share of stuff like this to smaller clubs. Not that I don't despise PSG for this. As I said I think they ruined modern football for good, just saying what goes around comes around. They're probably still pissed off we signed Ronaldinho all them years ago.

 

[DonAK]

Sorry, but Wijnaldum is not that great of a player they'd sign to be petty towards Barca. Given how lackluster PSGs midfield is they probably saw him as a better option than paying 100m for Camavinga who was their priority.

 

[Birdy]

Sorry, but Wijnaldum is not that great of a player they'd sign to be petty towards Barca. Given how lackluster PSGs midfield is they probably saw him as a better option than paying 100m for Camavinga who was their priority.

You are being naive now.
Kelaify has done everything to be pety towards Barca after the remontanda.
Only look at Neymar's transfer, and the tons of failed attempts to hijack any Barca potential transfer target.
They got a huge L with De Jong, but he is still not over it, and wants to keep doing his thing

They didn't discover Wijnaldum after he reached an agreement for Barca.
Like I said, they had 6 months to identify him as a target for their midfield

Whether you rate him or not, that's irrelevant.