Gini Wijnaldum

[mc_lovin]

Sorry, but Wijnaldum is not that great of a player they'd sign to be petty towards Barca. Given how lackluster PSGs midfield is they probably saw him as a better option than paying 100m for Camavinga who was their priority.

That's ridiculous. They wont sign him to be petty but to strengthen their team. He's a good to very good player.

The world doesn't revolve around us.

Edit: Maybe I don't get what you are trying to say I am drunk.

 

[DonAK]

@Birdy The only one being naive is the person that believes a professional football club will offer a player a multimillion contract to be petty, and that's you in this case.

That they had six months to identify him as a target is irrelevant. He might have been their second, third or fouth choice target that only came into play when the players on their list in front of him were deemed to be ungettable.

Btw, PSG actually made Frenkie and Ajax a firm offer unlike Barcelona who only moved for him at the very last moment, and that's because Barca moved past Abidal's obsession with Rabiot.


@mc_lovin I see the way I wrote that is confusing, but I do agree with you, or you agree with me lol

 

[mc_lovin]

Yeah, my bad. I get it now.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Wijnaldum has been on the free agent market since at least 6 month ago, when it was certain he is not renewing with Liverpool.
PSG had all the time in the world to prepare their super-offer and contact him.
Why didn't they do it all that time, but they do it now that it is leaked all over the press that the player has reached a personal agreement with Barca and the medical will be scheduled next week?

Nothing to do with free agent market.
Everything to do with pety chairmans and clubs who want to take again revenge in their primitive way of understanding things

Again, you can't prove it. And even if that was the case, he didn't break any laws or rules. In an auction (essentially an auction) like this, the early bidders don't win, the highest bidders do.

The whole middle paragraph is the perfect description of why some stage of the negotiation should become legally prohibited for other clubs to enter in.

As for the political power, sure he has power as ECA chairman.
But there are many cards Laporta can play. At least there are people of power in football that detest the 'new oil money' attack of Qatar and Dubai.
There are coalitions he can make and actions he can take now or in the future, not directly related to transfers, to get the message across
At this level, Laporta is a shrewd politician.

Well, you might think it should, but the fact of the matter is it isn't legally prohibited right now. How are you going to change it? Laporta protesting and complaining won't do.

What political cards? People might not like the likes of PSG and City etc., but they are legal businesses and you don't have a case against them just because you don't like them. Not to mention if there is any power, the ECA is the one wielding the power, not us. People might not like PSG, they don't necessarily like us that much either.

It is a losing fight.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Oh well. We need to find someone else.

 

[DonAK]

There's no poltical cards to play. PSG are not trying to sign Wijnaldum because they're petty.

This is just really silly.

 

[Luftstalag14]

You are being naive now.
Kelaify has done everything to be pety towards Barca after the remontanda.
Only look at Neymar's transfer, and the tons of failed attempts to hijack any Barca potential transfer target.
They got a huge L with De Jong, but he is still not over it, and wants to keep doing his thing

They didn't discover Wijnaldum after he reached an agreement for Barca.
Like I said, they had 6 months to identify him as a target for their midfield

Whether you rate him or not, that's irrelevant.

This is victim mentality. Thinking the world is out to get us. We are much bigger than that.

 

[iniestaGOAT]

Its not that serious. Football teams lose out on players all the time.

Lapota will look like a clown if he goes out making statement cause we lose out on gini when the team is broke.

 

[Birdy]

@Birdy The only one being naive is the person that believes a professional football club will offer a player a multimillion contract to be petty, and that's you in this case.

That they had six months to identify him as a target is irrelevant. He might have been their second, third or fouth choice target that only came into play when the players on their list in front of him were deemed to be ungettable.

Btw, PSG actually made Frenkie and Ajax a firm offer unlike Barcelona who only moved for him at the very last moment, and that's because Barca moved past Abidal's obsession with Rabiot.

I like how you try to rationalize their action. Just following the transfer news around Europe is enough to answer your question.
No, they didn't have 1st 2nd or 3rd target that suddenly became unavailable.
Actually the only midfielder that was heard for them is Carmaviga along with the leak that Rennes president asked 100m or more for him, so eventually shut their interest down.

Yes, they are on the market for a midfielder, and Wijnaldum is a decent player to cover the position. That's common knowledge.
They are not just wasting money, they are paying a football player, and they will receive a service for him.

But 'Why him' and 'Why now' are the questions that should tell you that what's happening is far from accidental
It's not irrelevant that they didn't move for him earlier.
How many times have you heard a transfer to fail after a team has reached personal agreement with a player, and failing in particular because another team intervened AFTER the event offering more money in order to hijack the agreement?
It's naive to overlook the succession of events.

PS1: With Frenkie, they did it differently. They didn't hijack a closed deal.
They offered him a contract after it had been known for months that Frenkie wants Barca and Barca wants Frenkie.
They took advantage of the slowness and complacency with which Barto board had not secured an agreement with the player until then, but their intentions were the same.
Let's steal another player that is set to join Barca

PS2:
Guys please.
I am not throwing generalities 'the whole world is against Barca' etc
I am talking specifically.
It's PSG, Kelaify, and it has happened many times to think it's accidental.
Just count the cases of players that PSG targeted and/or tried to sign after it was leaked in press that Barca are interested OR Barca has an agreement with.
It's on purpose

PS3:
People can be petty, very petty...
Even at high positions of power and authority that are associated with some status.

Why do you think we hijacked Malcom's transfer to Roma? Because he was some unbelieavable gem that we discovered after he had agreed deal with them?
He was not even in any list of potential targets.
Barto and his board were pretty petty people and could not get over the UCL debacle at Rome

 

[Sorin]

Such a meltdown for a Gini fucking Wijnaldum.

It's like we are missing on prime Iniesta the way some cry over this guy.

Oh well, 8m is way too much, even if we wouldn't have been in a financial crisis, let PSG have him.

 

[Newcomer]

I like how you try to rationalize their action. Just following the transfer news around Europe is enough to answer your question.
No, they didn't have 1st 2nd or 3rd target that suddenly became unavailable.
Actually the only midfielder that was heard for them is Carmaviga along with the leak that Rennes president asked 100m or more for him, so eventually shut their interest down.

Yes, they are on the market for a midfielder, and Wijnaldum is a decent player to cover the position. That's common knowledge.
They are not just wasting money, they are paying a football player, and they will receive a service for him.

But 'Why him' and 'Why now' are the questions that should tell you that what's happening is far from accidental
It's not irrelevant that they didn't move for him earlier.
How many times have you heard a transfer to fail after a team has reached personal agreement with a player, and failing in particular because another team intervened AFTER the event offering more money in order to hijack the agreement?
It's naive to overlook the succession of events.

PS1: With Frenkie, they did it differently. They didn't hijack a closed deal.
They offered him a contract after it had been known for months that Frenkie wants Barca and Barca wants Frenkie.
They took advantage of the slowness and complacency with which Barto board had not secured an agreement with the player until then, but their intentions were the same.
Let's steal another player that is set to join Barca

PS2:
Guys please.
I am not throwing generalities 'the whole world is against Barca' etc
I am talking specifically.
It's PSG, Kelaify, and it has happened many times to think it's accidental.
Just count the cases of players that PSG targeted and/or tried to sign after it was leaked in press that Barca are interested OR Barca has an agreement with.
It's on purpose

PS3:
People can be petty, very petty...
Even at high positions of power and authority that are associated with some status.

Why do you think we hijacked Malcom's transfer to Roma? Because he was some unbelieavable gem that we discovered after he had agreed deal with them?
He was not even in any list of potential targets.
Barto and his board were pretty petty people and could not get over the UCL debacle at Rome

Look at PSG recent transfers. They target players on a free because it is a market opportunity.

They tried for Alaba but he chooses Real. They tried for Thiago Alcantara last year but he chooses Liverpool. They wanted Fabinho but Monaco wouldn't sell it to them and is now at Liverpool. They are rumoured to try for Donnarumma, another market opportunity.

Not everything is about Bar?a... PSG don't target a player because he is Bar?a bound. The same way. Bar?a didn't have an hard on for some PSG players over the years because they are obsessed with PSG. PSG and Bar?a are simply in the market for a lot of similar players.

Your argument about Frenkie deal is hilarious. PSG tried to steal a player from Bar?a when the latter didn't even make an offer... If anything, Bar?a did exactly what you are chastizing PSG for. I guess Juve shouldn't have made an offer for de Ligt since like Frenkie he was destined to be a Bar?a player. Right?

Also, Neymar deal was going to happen irrespectively of PSG -Bar?a face off. Neymar side purposefully only raise the clause from 180 to 222 to prepare the exit one year later.
There was an article from Goal telling it exactly how it went down and how it was prepared the previous summer.

 

[Newcomer]

About Wijnaldum, i don't know what to think.

I would be a bit disappointed we aren't going for a better player but he is probably better than what we have.

I don't see him making us taking the next step and i think he will sign for Bar?a like all the Dutch bandwagonners.

 

[Luftstalag14]

About Wijnaldum, i don't know what to think.

I would be a bit disappointed we aren't going for a better player but he is probably better than what we have.

I don't see him making us taking the next step and i think he will sign for Bar?a like all the Dutch bandwagonners.

He is looking for more money, otherwise he would have renewed with Liverpool already. Like what DonAK said, this is probably his last long-term contract so he will try to get the most out of it, nobody can blame him. If we were to trust the reports (that PSG offered him a lot more than we did) then it is very natural that he goes to PSG.

 

[Birdy]

Wijnaldum did not exactly want money from Liverpool, plain as that.
He wanted his contribution the last years for them to get reflected in a longer contract with wages that would feature better in the wage rank at Liverpool squad.
He was on really low wages compared to other Liverpool players that didn't contribute even remotely close to what he did.

So, not exactly plain money, but something different

Not everything is about Bar?a... PSG don't target a player because he is Bar?a bound. The same way. Bar?a didn't have an hard on for some PSG players over the years because they are obsessed with PSG. PSG and Bar?a are simply in the market for a lot of similar players.

Not everything is about Barca,
only the moves your team makes after they know Barca really wants/have agreed with a player.
Spare me the excuses, you better look inside your own club at your brute and primitive presi

 

[Barcilliant]

If he goes to Psg so be it. Disappointing but there's nothing we can do.
Partey is the player we should have signed. He's now wasting his time at Arsenal.
Bottom line we need a proper physical player who will add steel to the midfield. Whether that's Gini or someone else get it done.
A midfield of De Jong, Pedri, Busquets and Puig is not going to win the league. Too fucking soft.
Than people are going to blame Koeman despite the fact that we have such a poor midfield.