Gini Wijnaldum

[Raketa10]

shouldn't offer anymore than 10m for him, otherwise just get thiago a much better player.
The fact is he's looking for his last big payday and we shouldn't be targeting players like that, if he wasn't he'd be signing/extending with liverpool.

A much better player that we don't need. We need to forget about "big names" and stop buying the same type of players all of the time. This way of thinking brought Griezmann and Coutinho here. With De Jong, Puig and Pjanic aready here we need Wijnaldum more than Thiago. Is he a perfect signing? Hell no, but if we can get him for 13.5 mil as rumored its's a good deal. Just don't give him 2+1y contract and nothing more.

 

[Respekt_III]

A much better player that we don't need. We need to forget bout the "big names" and stop buying the same type of players all of the time. This way of thinking brought Griezmann and Coutinho here. With De Jong, Puig and Pjanic aready here we need Wijnaldum more than Thiago. Is he a perfect signing? Hell no, but if we can get him for 13.5 mil as rumored its's a good deal. Just don't give him 2+1y contract and nothing more.

We don't need because we got Pjanic on stupid wages and a long contract. Thiago can replace him or play a Thiago Pjanic fdj midfield if we need to be solid in the cl. Gini doesn't really add anything other than work rate? He not reay going to help in the majority of our games against packed defences either.
I'm happy to spend around the 10m for him on a 2+1 but nmanything more than that is an absolute no from me as to me he shouldn't be anything more than a bench option.

 

[Raketa10]

We don't need because we got Pjanic on stupid wages and a long contract. Thiago can replace him or play a Thiago Pjanic fdj midfield if we need to be solid in the cl. Gini doesn't really add anything other than work rate? He not reay going to help in the majority of our games against packed defences either.
I'm happy to spend around the 10m for him on a 2+1 but nmanything more than that is an absolute no from me as to me he shouldn't be anything more than a bench option.

IMHO FDJ-Thiago-Pjanic midfield would be a disaster. Too slow and too weak defensively. Furthermore, they are all DM players who shoot and score goals rarely. We need to create a balance in our team. Something that we lack for years now.

 

[AnfieldEd]

People in here were praising Vidal not too long ago, saying that he is the best midfielder in the squad.
Now they're creaming themselves over a 30 year old who never excelled at anything his whole career. Plays in a midfield/team where even the likes of Henderson and Milner look like football players.
But yeah, let's give him one last big paycheck for 3 seasons so he can enjoy the Barcelona life. Hell of a rebuild we're doing with the likes of Pjanic and Wijnaldum.

Yeah............you're clearly clueless about football.

 

[AnfieldEd]

Whats your thoughts on him leaving?

As stated in my OP I am gutted if he does leave us.

Let me explain what Gini does for a team. Klopp picks Gini to start pretty much every game he is fit as he is integral to his system. Like Firmino.

Gini is very comfortable staying central and compact making him an excellent interior midfield as he don't drift outside to get easy space which allows Trent and Robbo the space needed to thrive in the system. He is excellent in small spaces and creating small combinations. He is excellent at protecting attacks. Whoever is behind the ball need to be able to manage players who break fast. Gini does this very well.

IMO dealing with defensive transitions Gini is easily top 3 in the world if not No.1 in the world. Gini is mobile, covers ground quickly and is excellent at retaining the ball and playing in small spaces and transitions. I'm gutted to be losing him.

Which is why when I quote fools like I've just done who are complete idiots who know nothing about the game except looking at 'stats' or goals and assists in judging players are complete and utter morons.

Personally I'll take Jurgen's judgment who's made Gini and Hendo ever presents in HIS team when fit over an idiot and others who don't appreciate Gini or look at football at dumbass way.

So, yeah I'm gutted if we are losing Gini.

 

[Raketa10]

As stated in my OP I am gutted if he does leave us.

Let me explain what Gini does for a team. Klopp picks Gini to start pretty much every game he is fit as he is integral to his system. Like Firmino.

Gini is very comfortable staying central and compact making him an excellent interior midfield as he don't drift outside to get easy space which allows Trent and Robbo the space needed to thrive in the system. He is excellent in small spaces and creating small combinations. He is excellent at protecting attacks. Whoever is behind the ball need to be able to manage players who break fast. Gini does this very well.

IMO dealing with defensive transitions Gini is easily top 3 in the world if not No.1 in the world. Gini is mobile, covers ground quickly and is excellent at retaining the ball and playing in small spaces and transitions. I'm gutted to be losing him.

Which is why when I quote fools like I've just done who are complete idiots who know nothing about the game except looking at 'stats' or goals and assists in judging players are complete and utter morons.

Personally I'll take Jurgen's judgment who's made Gini and Hendo ever presents in HIS team when fit over an idiot and others who don't appreciate Gini or look at football at dumbass way.

So, yeah I'm gutted if we are losing Gini.

Nice post!

 

[Birdy]

As stated in my OP I am gutted if he does leave us.

Let me explain what Gini does for a team. Klopp picks Gini to start pretty much every game he is fit as he is integral to his system. Like Firmino.

Gini is very comfortable staying central and compact making him an excellent interior midfield as he don't drift outside to get easy space which allows Trent and Robbo the space needed to thrive in the system. He is excellent in small spaces and creating small combinations. He is excellent at protecting attacks. Whoever is behind the ball need to be able to manage players who break fast. Gini does this very well.

IMO dealing with defensive transitions Gini is easily top 3 in the world if not No.1 in the world. Gini is mobile, covers ground quickly and is excellent at retaining the ball and playing in small spaces and transitions. I'm gutted to be losing him.

Which is why when I quote fools like I've just done who are complete idiots who know nothing about the game except looking at 'stats' or goals and assists in judging players are complete and utter morons.

Personally I'll take Jurgen's judgment who's made Gini and Hendo ever presents in HIS team when fit over an idiot and others who don't appreciate Gini or look at football at dumbass way.

So, yeah I'm gutted if we are losing Gini.

+1000
I would also add his off the ball movement in the final third is outstanding. Most of the goals he scores are coming from runs he starts from the second line of attack to find himself at the receiving end in the box.
He also scores in important games (Barca, Atletico this year, derbys in the EPL)

He can cover many positions in Koeman's system. I think he will be phenomenal next to Frenkie in the double pivot.
In any case, what is worrying is that Barca fanbase might not recognize his qualities and whine a lot for not being as good on the ball as what the culture here dictates about a CM.

PS: On another note, you have to admire Liverpool's management. They didn't give him a contract until the age of 32, but only until the age of 31 (from what I understand this was the point of contention), knowing that the decline comes usually at that time in a footballer's career.
Liverpool are 'ruthless' in the good sense (not in the sense that Barca were with Arthur).

 

[snowy]

Just need to look at AnfieldEd's comments and other pool fans, guttered that he's leaving yet wishing him the best and then compare it to how keen we'd be to even pay other clubs to take our vets

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Thiago, he's always been freak awesome but compare to Ginni Tank, he's Mr Glass getting injured by his own reflection in the mirror.

 

[Respekt_III]

As stated in my OP I am gutted if he does leave us.

Let me explain what Gini does for a team. Klopp picks Gini to start pretty much every game he is fit as he is integral to his system. Like Firmino.

Gini is very comfortable staying central and compact making him an excellent interior midfield as he don't drift outside to get easy space which allows Trent and Robbo the space needed to thrive in the system. He is excellent in small spaces and creating small combinations. He is excellent at protecting attacks. Whoever is behind the ball need to be able to manage players who break fast. Gini does this very well.

IMO dealing with defensive transitions Gini is easily top 3 in the world if not No.1 in the world. Gini is mobile, covers ground quickly and is excellent at retaining the ball and playing in small spaces and transitions. I'm gutted to be losing him.

Which is why when I quote fools like I've just done who are complete idiots who know nothing about the game except looking at 'stats' or goals and assists in judging players are complete and utter morons.

Personally I'll take Jurgen's judgment who's made Gini and Hendo ever presents in HIS team when fit over an idiot and others who don't appreciate Gini or look at football at dumbass way.

So, yeah I'm gutted if we are losing Gini.

Thanks for the write up, if Jurgen/Liverpool beleive he's that critical then I'd assume they wouldn't have an issue giving him that 3 year contract he wants. I watch Liverpool play on ocassion and think that your midfield 3 isn't anything special however they are the right type of players for the system and players you employ.
Having said that I do agree that he's one of your better midfielders.

 

[Ritchie]

Sahin comes to mind with Wijnaldum. Looks good in a Klopp system but not a particularly good player. He's not someone who will score and assist many over a season, he's not really creative, he's not a holding midfielder the way Busquets is/was, he tends to keep it simple in terms of passing, he's often not noticeable in terms of the play and has quiet games, especially away from home.

He's got quality but he's a bits and pieces midfielder that flourishes in the system that Klopp has set out.

A positive though is he's done well for Holland under Koeman, so Koeman should know how to get the best out of him.

 

[Ritchie]

Thanks for the write up, if Jurgen/Liverpool beleive he's that critical then I'd assume they wouldn't have an issue giving him that 3 year contract he wants. I watch Liverpool play on ocassion and think that your midfield 3 isn't anything special however they are the right type of players for the system and players you employ.
Having said that I do agree that he's one of your better midfielders.

Thiago would be a huge upgrade for Liverpool over Wijnaldum.

 

[vuji_31]

He will not do miracle alone. He is decent value for money.

He is good with Koeman so he knows why he wants him. He will not be overpaid so I think this will be good signing to refresh our midfield.

 

[serghei]

As stated in my OP I am gutted if he does leave us.

Let me explain what Gini does for a team. Klopp picks Gini to start pretty much every game he is fit as he is integral to his system. Like Firmino.

Gini is very comfortable staying central and compact making him an excellent interior midfield as he don't drift outside to get easy space which allows Trent and Robbo the space needed to thrive in the system. He is excellent in small spaces and creating small combinations. He is excellent at protecting attacks. Whoever is behind the ball need to be able to manage players who break fast. Gini does this very well.

IMO dealing with defensive transitions Gini is easily top 3 in the world if not No.1 in the world. Gini is mobile, covers ground quickly and is excellent at retaining the ball and playing in small spaces and transitions. I'm gutted to be losing him.

Which is why when I quote fools like I've just done who are complete idiots who know nothing about the game except looking at 'stats' or goals and assists in judging players are complete and utter morons.

Personally I'll take Jurgen's judgment who's made Gini and Hendo ever presents in HIS team when fit over an idiot and others who don't appreciate Gini or look at football at dumbass way.

So, yeah I'm gutted if we are losing Gini.

Great comment.

 

[Respekt_III]

Thiago would be a huge upgrade for Liverpool over Wijnaldum.

I totally agree with that as well.

 

[Raketa10]

Yeah, Thiago would definitely be an upgrade since Lpool has players who will run 100x up and down the field. He is definitely a better player than Wijnaldum but their playing style is not even comparable. Other Lpool midfielders will play defense as they usually do and no one will expect that Thiago has to be a workhorse for them. On the other side we have Pjanic who paired with Thiago would expose our defenders as much as it gets.

People just can't understand that two good players sometimes just don't fit together. A world class team needs to have a good balance and Fdj-Thiago-Pjanic midfield is anything but well balanced. I am not happy that we bought Pjanic but since we did, we now need one fast and physical player who has much better work rate than Thiago. Koeman is well aware of that so I am 100% sure Thiago is not even an option for him unless he doesn't count on Pjanic at all.