Hans-Dieter Flick

[Windhook]

Those are the stats. I still feel positive about Flick's team, while last year there was this overall atmosphere of doom.

One thing that is fact - without Lamine this team is struggling.

 

[draconifire]

Flick hasnt had a full season.
We have the same squad, while we are playing far far entertaining football than before.

Hold your horses people. We are still Laliga contender. He should be judged at the end of the season.

I distinctly remember so many poster bar maybe @serghei and one or two, wanted that Haram football to stop.
Just go back and read this thread. We are playing great football so thats a plus agaisnt last season. Lets wait a bit more, and hopefully results will come.

You guys litterally act like retail traders who get rekt because of emotions. LOL

 

[serghei]

Those are the stats. I still feel positive about Flick's team, while last year there was this overall atmosphere of doom.

One thing that is fact - without Lamine this team is struggling.

Positive or not, to reach 85pts he needs to up his 2 ppg to almost 2.5 in the 2nd part of the season. 47 points out of 57 in the next 19 games. I am pretty confident we can win the league if he achieves it.

That's pretty much the math behind at least having a similar season to the last one in the league, which wasn't even a good one.

 

[FCBarca]

Those are the stats. I still feel positive about Flick's team, while last year there was this overall atmosphere of doom.

One thing that is fact - without Lamine this team is struggling.

Plenty to feel positive about from Flick's 1st half, glimpses of the possibilities yet reminders of the inconsistency that plagued Xavi's time as well.

Is it a mentality or personality issue? Or simply a case of lacking the overall footballing maturity yet to compete consistently rather than raising their level for the occasional big match? That competitiveness is not new to the young players from La Masia but suspect in others

The good is indeed that they are creating a ridiculous number of sumptuous chances, even if they are less clinical now and more prone to lapses in concentration. I think this too is a symptom the lack of depth has on minutes played and the level of competitiveness they can sustain

Moreover, concur it is a fact that Lamine is a difference maker and the team struggles in his absence but this has been clear since he debuted at 15 IMHO - era defining players have that impact. Now, he must not only be protected more by both the club & Flick but RFEF as well. Irrefutable that he is a player that boosts the football product in Spain like no other player, for Barça, RFEF & La Roja and referees harm themselves by failing to protect him at even a fraction of what Vini benefits from.

From there, incumbent upon the club to pair this phenom with WC support on & off the pitch

 

[jamrock]

Positive or not, to reach 85pts he needs to up his 2 ppg to almost 2.5 in the 2nd part of the season. 47 points out of 57 in the next 19 games. I am pretty confident we can win the league if he achieves it.

Impossible we drop 10 more points and win the league TBH.

Maybe 6 and that's stretching it.

 

[serghei]

Impossible we drop 10 more points and win the league TBH.

Maybe 6 and that's stretching it.

Depends on Madrid and Atletico also. It can be close, but I don't see any team reaching 90 mark. With 85-88 we stand a decent chance to win it imo.

I wouldn't be hellbent on winning the league this year, but next year could be even more difficult as Madrid will improve I feel.

This is not a top league season from Madrid so far.

 

[Birdy]

The game against Betis. Where the players tried to attack but a mispass by Gavi. Started Betis’ counter which led to the equaliser. In that situation, he should’ve sent a that ball to the end of the stadium.

Game against Celta, we were winning 2-1 and the players were still going for the attack. In this situation with 10 players, normally we would go back but we didn’t…

The 2-2 you mean? That was not even a counter. Cross against a fixed defense which our defenders fumbled

Game against Celta were 2 brain-farts: one by Casado, unnecessary challenge that led to red card.
The other the unspeakable action by Kounde
When we were a man down we did not try to go all out to attack as you say.
I think we did the same as with the Monaco game, we changed to 4-4-1 system and tried to attack more cautiously

PSG were not outplaying us. They created one good chance before the red card and we took the lead. If it weren’t for the red card, the game would’ve been very very different…

One good, and many others were coming given the state of the game.
We scored without deserving it totally outplayed by them at our own turf.

Based on what we would not have beaten PSG? They had 120 mins in 11 vs 11 and were 2 goals down. If Lewa could finish we would have been 3 ahead.

See, easy to imagine how things would have went if this or that happened instead of what it did happen.

See above.
First game in PAris, yes we were better and deserved the win.
Second game totally different story, we got outplayed 11 v 11
There is nothing imaginary in reporting what happened

Give us some stats on that game before while it was 11 v 11.

I know we were 1 goal up & created 1 or 2 more "big chances", more clear chances than PSG had.

But you're the stats guy, give us some stats to show us what we were seeing wasn't true,11 v 11.

There you go boy

Look at the attacking threat of PSG before the red card.
Totally outplayed us

 

[serghei]

Of course PSG had more attacking threat lol, we were playing on the counter. PSG also had more attacking threat vs Dortmund and lost.

It is perfectly normal for a team that is chasing a result to attack more.

What matters is that the biggest chance to score after 1-0 goal was Lewa's to make 2-0.

 

[Birdy]

You do understand that if these stats prove something, they prove Flick's superiority, right?

Same goals conceded per game, Flick much more goals per game

 

[jamrock]

2x more lost but almost 1 goal more per game.

Good thing he's doing well in the CL

 

[jamrock]

The 2-2 you mean? That was not even a counter. Cross against a fixed defense which our defenders fumbled

Game against Celta were 2 brain-farts: one by Casado, unnecessary challenge that led to red card.
The other the unspeakable action by Kounde
When we were a man down we did not try to go all out to attack as you say.
I think we did the same as with the Monaco game, we changed to 4-4-1 system and tried to attack more cautiously



One good, and many others were coming given the state of the game.
We scored without deserving it totally outplayed by them at our own turf.


See above.
First game in PAris, yes we were better and deserved the win.
Second game totally different story, we got outplayed 11 v 11
There is nothing imaginary in reporting what happened

There you go boy

Look at the attacking threat of PSG before the red card.
Totally outplayed us

Lol what this chart is tell us, is we had a 1 goal advantage going in and PSG needed to score, 😂 😂

 

[Birdy]

2x more lost but almost 1 goal more per game.

Good thing he's doing well in the CL

And this is just goals

if you look at the xG there is exponential difference to Xavi's numbers

 

[Birdy]

Lol what this chart is tell us, is we had a 1 goal advantage going in and PSG needed to score, 😂 😂

No, it tells you they cornered us into our own box

Don't try to push another narrative that it was a conscious choice.
It was NOT
We could not stop them, simply. We were lucky with the 0-1

Unlike you and Serghei, I am objective.
I admit that in the 1st leg in Paris we were the better team the whole game.
You guys fail to admit the reality of the 2nd game

 

[jamrock]

And this is just goals

if you look at the xG there is exponential difference to Xavi's numbers

You sure love to choose stays that favour your agenda.

It's not even a full 1 goal extra per game.

While we have 2.5 more losses, that's the big take away.

 

[serghei]

No, it tells you they cornered us into our own box

Don't try to push another narrative that it was a conscious choice.
It was NOT
We could not stop them, simply. We were lucky with the 0-1

Unlike you and Serghei, I am objective.
I admit that in the 1st leg in Paris we were the better team the whole game.
You guys fail to admit the reality of the 2nd game

What was xG before Araujo's double fuck-up? Territorial domination means fuck-all if it's not backed by big chances.