Hans-Dieter Flick

[Iniesta Ultra]

Asencio been Rudiger's partner not Tchou.

Turdle flailing around doesn't impress me. He should be fourth on the attacker's list for Madrid but Ancelotti doesn't have the balls or brains.

 

[Iniesta Ultra]

https://bioinitiative.org/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/BioInitiativeReport-RF-Color-Charts.pdf

explains why everyone's fucked up

 

[malvolio]

Could have something to do with people living in Spain, prefer to win national competitions that you can actually plan, instead of satisfy the Social Media success fan mob. Some may find that shocking, but there are many people in Barcelona who don't give a rat's ass what twitter accounts write about the CL loses.
The club identifies as a catalan club above anything else, that always competes with Madrid throughout the history in sports and politics.
That's the reason Barca is the most successful club in the world if you take all the sport teams the club offers, that's why the Camp Nou was actually full when the women's team played the clasico.
The club never prioritizes the international competition before the national one.

No club prioritises CL over league really. Apart from maybe PSG because Qatar wants that aura. But it's not like they need to lose league form and focus on CL.

CL wins are dependant on too many variables and it's not usually the best team in Europe that wins it. A team can be at its absolute best on all metrics that season, but still be eliminated by some fluke goal or refereeing mistake.

 

[serghei]

That's true, except if you win it by outplaying everyone which is what happens once in 8-10 years maybe. It's extremely difficult to do that. Even the best City won it by some luck and small margins vs Inter, Liverpool needed Dumbele and a Barca implosion with a terrorist in goal, you need some luck here and there usually even if you are the best team.

The league is the one you can control the most.

 

[Horatio]

No club prioritises CL over league really. Apart from maybe PSG because Qatar wants that aura. But it's not like they need to lose league form and focus on CL.

CL wins are dependant on too many variables and it's not usually the best team in Europe that wins it. A team can be at its absolute best on all metrics that season, but still be eliminated by some fluke goal or refereeing mistake.

Good point. But do think priority increases as team gets deeper into CL

 

[BJJ]

Could have something to do with people living in Spain, prefer to win national competitions that you can actually plan, instead of satisfy the Social Media success fan mob. Some may find that shocking, but there are many people in Barcelona who don't give a rat's ass what twitter accounts write about the CL loses.
The club identifies as a catalan club above anything else, that always competes with Madrid throughout the history in sports and politics.
That's the reason Barca is the most successful club in the world if you take all the sport teams the club offers, that's why the Camp Nou was actually full when the women's team played the clasico.
The club never prioritizes the international competition before the national one.

Competes with Real Madrid??????
We are competing with Madrid in CL too btw. They ate waaaaayyyy ahead of us. If we compete with Madrid, we compete against them in all trophies. You can't just pick and choose. CL is alot more prestigious though. I will take CL over la liga anyday of the week.

 

[Mihai Stefan]

No club prioritises CL over league really. Apart from maybe PSG because Qatar wants that aura. But it's not like they need to lose league form and focus on CL.

CL wins are dependant on too many variables and it's not usually the best team in Europe that wins it. A team can be at its absolute best on all metrics that season, but still be eliminated by some fluke goal or refereeing mistake.

The league means consistency and nothing out of the ordinary, no sparkle, on the other hand, the UCL means intensity, value, potential, when I think about the league/UCL ratio, I think of that Barcelona of 17/18 that was very consistent in the Copa del Rey or the league with weaker opponents, but in the UCL, it did not present any high-level potential or intensity, very weak from many points of view.

I know that many people will say about 11/12 or 20/21 Chelsea being the weakest possible UCL winners, but guess what mate, defense is also part of the game, if a team prefers to defend in a 4-2-3-1 or 3-5-2, it is their choice to do so.

Nobody will say about Real Madrid 2016-18, that they only won one title and no domestic cup and that they are a weak team because of that, absolutely not, many say that they are in the top 5 best teams in modern history.

Just like you can't say that Barcelona from 2016-21, simply has bad luck and that's it in the UCL, no bro, they were extremely weak and that's it, nothing more than that. As Thomas Muller said, "they can't cope with high intensity and stressful games".

 

[Messigician]

simply has bad luck and that's it in the UCL, no bro

Yeah we also had agent dembele missing a sitter that would have won us the treble

 

[FCBfan22]

Winning after 5-1 up with 10 men is not impressive for any club in the world.

What is impressive is the fact that after that free kick, Real Madrid created fuck all apart from that chance that resulted in a Pena save.

That is impressive. We were more than an equal opponent while being a man down.

 

[BJJ]

Imagine a Judo competitor who dominates the national scene and wins 15 titles in a row. However, when he goes for the European title he gets beaten and embarrassed repeatedly. Would people use the same argument? This thing about la liga being more important is nothing but a Catalan coping mechanism.
Bayern and Juventus absolutely dominated their leagues but noone but their fans care. The neutral will point out how Juventus were soundly beaten by both Barca and Madrid in CL finals.
With amigos we dominated la liga cause teams were easier to beat. As soon as amigos had to match the workrate and intensity of top European teams they collapsed . This whole league is greater than CL is absurd.

 

[Dev]

What is impressive is the fact that after that free kick, Real Madrid created fuck all apart from that chance that resulted in a Pena save.

That is impressive. We were more than an equal opponent while being a man down.

'cause Incelotti has been colleting mid niggas like infinty stones in that MIDfield.

 

[Barcaman]

'cause Incelotti has been colleting mid niggas like infinty stones in that MIDfield.

Don't have a problem with you using the words you want. This is a free forum
Overdoing it is just annoying and repetitive.

 

[Iniesta Ultra]

Don't have a problem with you using the words you want. This is a free forum
Overdoing it is just annoying and repetitive.

snowy-ish

 

[Messigician]

Don't have a problem with you using the words you want. This is a free forum
Overdoing it is just annoying and repetitive.

Leave the kid alone, he will mature in time like a young gasgas

 

[malvolio]

The league means consistency and nothing out of the ordinary, no sparkle, on the other hand, the UCL means intensity, value, potential, when I think about the league/UCL ratio, I think of that Barcelona of 17/18 that was very consistent in the Copa del Rey or the league with weaker opponents, but in the UCL, it did not present any high-level potential or intensity, very weak from many points of view.

I know that many people will say about 11/12 or 20/21 Chelsea being the weakest possible UCL winners, but guess what mate, defense is also part of the game, if a team prefers to defend in a 4-2-3-1 or 3-5-2, it is their choice to do so.

Nobody will say about Real Madrid 2016-18, that they only won one title and no domestic cup and that they are a weak team because of that, absolutely not, many say that they are in the top 5 best teams in modern history.

Just like you can't say that Barcelona from 2016-21, simply has bad luck and that's it in the UCL, no bro, they were extremely weak and that's it, nothing more than that. As Thomas Muller said, "they can't cope with high intensity and stressful games".

A team that reaches a CL final is not weak, regardless of the way it got there. But the best in the world for winning it? Not necessarily.

It's also the way a team approaches certain games. I'm pretty sure Madrid feels more pressure when playing at San Mames than when they play at the San Siro.

Anyway, CL might be the goose with the golden eggs and ads a degree of worldwide exposure and aura to a team. But tbf for the local fans it's just the cherry on top(we're talking about the big teams in the top 5 leagues).