Hans-Dieter Flick

[Porque]

Xavi managed like a bum and his team conceded 4 little over an hour to go out.

Xavi managed shit. He was sent off when Araujo was sent off

 

[serghei]

Flick is superior in how the team plays, and far superior in terms of entertainment. You just have to tune in randomly once and you will see that Flick Barca simply attacks better.

The bad part is just one really...

Defensive problems caused Flick's league ppg average to be much lower than Xavi even at his worst. If at the end of 2 seasons it's still lower, after 70-something games, it's no longer an accident, it's an efficiency problem.

If the chaotic defense gets fixed, it's a clear win for Flick vs Xavi.

 

[malvolio]

Flick is superior in how the team plays, and far superior in terms of entertainment. You just have to tune in randomly once and you will see that Flick Barca simply attacks better.

The bad part is just one really...

Defensive problems caused Flick's league ppg average to be much lower than Xavi even at his worst. If at the end of 2 seasons it's still lower, after 70-something games, it's no longer an accident, it's an efficiency problem.

If the chaotic defense gets fixed, it's a clear win for Flick vs Xavi.

I like it how defense is into focus when it comes to Flick's football not being perfect. But that defense wouldn't be so shit if team would know how to control games via possession in midfield. Also, the defensive side of the midfield is not discussed enough.
We just single out the defenders like anyone else is blameless.

 

[serghei]

But that defense wouldn't be so shit if team would know how to control games via possession in midfield. Also, the defensive side of the midfield is not discussed enough.

Of course. I agree with this.

 

[Birdy]

Is Bumsi ever going to give us the front 4 we all want to see ????


,.......,........ Olmo (False 9)
Raph........FERMIN .......Lamine


Or is he still going to insist on Lewa and rate Gavi above Fermin?

That won't work simply with both Olmo and Fermin there...
Either one can play false 9 but not both

I we get Rashford or some decent LW, I would try Raphina up top: false 9, false 10 and everything.
He can be a real demon leading the line in Flickball

Something like that would KILL:
---------Rapha
-Rashy--Olmo--Lamine

with interchangeable positions for the front 4: would cause havoc and chaos on opposition defenses

 

[jamrock]

Wouldn't be against trying raphinha as a 9.

 

[JamDav1982]

Raphinha is better in the chaos of a game and being allowed freedom.

At CF even a false nine he would be too restricted.

 

[Barcaman]

Last Japanese soldiers blaming Araujo for PSG. Sure, Araujo made that mistake.

At the same time Inigo was on the bench for us so if Araujo was so shit and targeted by Lucho tactics why didn't Xavi play Inigo from the start for his obvious on the ball qualities.

If that argument reveals anything it only shows Lucho being superior coach.

 

[jamrock]

Yea let's play Martinez against the all sprinters front 4 of PSG, that's gonna end well.

As if araujo didn't play well against them in the away leg.

Shit take, try again.

 

[Birdy]

Raphinha is better in the chaos of a game and being allowed freedom.

At CF even a false nine he would be too restricted.

I did not mean a static CF like Lewa

I ment to keep playing like he has, with the freedom to find the spaces wherever there are.
Only nominally a 9, practically moving left right center as he sees suit

 

[Iniesta Ultra]

donkey's been main target making runs why I posted him at CF about a month ago

 

[serghei]

Flick doesn't have to change much. Most of the issues stem from not studying the other teams. If you study the opponent you unlock some weapons that can be very effective when your plan A is not going great for a plethora of reasons. When you don't it's plan A or bust.

Even under Pep Barca we had a plan B where we kept the ball to protect narrow leads and see the game out with a 1-0. Flick doesn't have much. I think this is probably his biggest weakness.

He has to respect and study smaller Spanish sides more. He didn't and paid the price so far in the league.

 

[JamDav1982]

Pep never told his teams to do that.. he always wanted them to keep going for goals until game done.

Certainly not at 1-0.

His idea of defending with the ball was from first whistle but in a way that designed to open teams up. He never instructed team at 1-0 to attack less and keep ball more.

 

[serghei]

Of course you go for the killer goal if the chance arrives. That's not what I'm talking about. Protecting the defense in difficult away games by way of controlling possession is something Flick doesn't have in his toolbox.

I already posted some days ago the multiple 1-0 wins previous great Barca sides had in the league away from home. Even Barca sides having 3 of the top 4 forwards in the world had to suffer for 1-0 wins. Flick's team is hopeless in this area.

Maybe we'll prove this to be unnecessary, maybe it will bite us in the ass... we shall see.

 

[JamDav1982]

Of course you go for the killer goal if the chance arrives. That's not what I'm talking about. Protecting the defense in difficult awag games by way of possession is something Flick doesn't have in his toolbox.

Pep played in way he believed best to win and with players he had and that was to from the start be ball dominant if needed but his Barca were also the best in the world in the break if teams tried to stop that.

Different times and different players anyway.

Barca have done it at times this season though. Twice have passed Real Madrid off the park when ahead and 11 v 11 for example.