Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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TheStig

Member
On second thoughts there could be some 'strange' scenarios he stays IF Flick really does like him at all.

1. Lenglet has no registration issues.. Inigo does and not yet been registered.
2. If the only offers for Lenglet were say to take him on loan and pay 25% of his salary.
3, Would Barca in that scenario rather keep Inigo on 9m a season and pay 75% of Lenglet at probably around 8m = Paying 17m for the two.
4. Or do they say.. punt Inigo to save on the 9m and issue of registering him and keep Lenglet instead at cost of around 10m trying to keep some value on him and try again to punt next summer.

That is about only way could see him staying IF Flick liked him and could well be type of thing Lenglet is gambling on.

Lenglet should have Inigo's role last year as they are similar in quality and nobody pays more than 25% of his salary for his loans. He can do the job as a 4th or 5th CB in the team, might as well use him as another body in case of injuries since we have to pay him anyway. The only danger is that Flick will prefer him to Faye or even Cubarsi since he in more experienced bla bla bla. Eric is in a similar position and we should try to offload them but if nobody wants to pay it's better to keep them if we have to cover their salaries anyway. It's their loss if they won't get any minutes, not Barca's. They can always terminate contract if they wanna play.

Same with Fati, better to keep him and have him as a backup if no team is ready to pay more than 50% of his salary.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Yeah if no one really comes in for Lenglet then it does become a consideration of Lenglet v Inigo possibly.. and Lenglet is registered while Inigo they will need to find 9m for that could be spent elsewhere.

In previous scenario it would be 17m on the books for Inigo to stay and have to find 9m this season to make it happen. Against 10m for Lenglet and nothing needed further to register him.

Best case scenario is both leave really but hard to get them out.

Even if either stay then would think when fit Araujo, Christensen and Cubarsi are all ahead of them and probably Kounde too dependent on what they do at full back.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Forget Lenglet for a moment.
We still have Eric Garcia at the club with nothing being reported about a possible exit. I know he's at the Olympics, but that wouldn't stop a club or us from trying to sort something out by the time it ends.
 

TheStig

Member
Yeah if no one really comes in for Lenglet then it does become a consideration of Lenglet v Inigo possibly.. and Lenglet is registered while Inigo they will need to find 9m for that could be spent elsewhere.

In previous scenario it would be 17m on the books for Inigo to stay and have to find 9m this season to make it happen. Against 10m for Lenglet and nothing needed further to register him.

Best case scenario is both leave really but hard to get them out.

Even if either stay then would think when fit Araujo, Christensen and Cubarsi are all ahead of them and probably Kounde too dependent on what they do at full back.

It's a dick move but since Inigo is not registered we should just tell him he won't be registered and that he can find himself a new club. If he refuses we still have to pay him but it doesn't matter from FFP standpoint. We have more than enough CBs without him, another stupid transfer.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Inigo was a made request all around. Even last season we struggled to register him.

100% Xavi pushed for him and his profile is right probably for what needed and the ball playing/zingers from back.

But at his age, with his injury record 9m a season is farcical.

I bet my bottom dollar it pissed off the board when Xavi made claims such as Garcia leaving was outwith his control and due to finances.. when he pushed for Inigo and they made a big financial effort to get him.

Surely to fuck there was a young defender out there could take a pun on for 25m and 4m a season that would have been better than Inigo or just kept Garcia.
 

Porque

Senior Member
At this stage, it seems Flick is the boards yes man.

But that may just be down to
A) studying the squad and how he thinks he can maximise it, and
B) his maturity to work together. Xavi used his credit as a player too much to demand his way.

In the end, it is not a bad thing. BUT if Yuste is deciding the transfers and not Deco with the SD, then that is my big worry and concern.

Clearly there are FFP issues today and everything is blocked until their is some cash inflow. So let's hope when that is cleared somewhat this summer, that we see some trust given to the SD to pull in some astute quality at A and B.

So far all the initial signs are positive. Good image against City youngsters who are further into their pre-season, in terms of game time atleast.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Clearly there are FFP issues today and everything is blocked until their is some cash inflow. So let's hope when that is cleared somewhat this summer, that we see some trust given to the SD to pull in some astute quality at A and B.

When are these FFP issues ever going to stop being a problem for us?
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
So should be all clear next summer then? We'll see about that. Somehow I doubt it.

Next summer COULD be a lot better.

They are allowed to put 2 years of projections into La Liga to approve and would have 2 years at new stadium as well as Corporate areas I believe they are selling off for 8-10 years.

The issue could be further down the line the way they are doing these deals and effectively levers by another name and impacts club long term..

If they take the corporate seats money in lump sums up front that is a heavily loaded income at the start as is the Nike deal and the 'bonus' being discussed.

That is not Nike giving Barca a bonus for the good of their health that is them paying what they would annually and taking off 100/150m or so now and paying it.

If they have already given away 50m or so in tv money, already given income from other areas for levers and will give more future income from corporate areas and Nike deal.. it will all be a negative as years go on.
 
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Porque

Senior Member
Yeah. There's no problem for accounting the short term bumps if they are natural such as a sign on bonus or the sale of corporate seats. But if we're calculating a 5 year contract payment as one seasons income then we are going to stress the club for the next board.

But the core issue right now is that we are a football club but are not making enough from the core assets of a club, it's players and prize money.

We are not a selling club, but we HAVE to sell talents consistently to replace with players we are confident that through our tier 1 first team training and academy training, are being replaced by someone better.

Instead we are selling raw youth players too early to generate some minimal cashflow, while again, wage loading ourselves on players who are old and hold no resale value.

But our hands are tied to an extent, until we are able to remove the immense burden of the deferral wages of Lenglet, Frenkie and the added ones of Lewy, Gundy, Inigo.

Secondly Xavi failed in Europe. I'm not going to go into individual compettions, and instead let the missing out on WCC qualification speak for the failures itself. These early exits and no points gained in Europa League runs also cost us immensely.
 

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