ajnotkeith
Senior Member
When you say things you should give references, otherwise, best to leave them unsaid.
Hans-Dieter Flick
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draconifire
NTC with a Positive attitude
Fati_Future_BallonDor
Well-known member
1. LE
2. Pep
3. Flick
4. EV
5. Xavi
Dude this ranking makes no sense, why LE should be over Pep?? LE had prime MSN
Joan
Well-known member
A few things about Xavi are clear and Flick proved them, if Flick lives up to other expectations and overcomes challenges ahead is a different topic.
When Flick came, people expected him to insist on a rigid setup which we didn't have the players for, apparently. Turns out it was Xavi reading his squad wrong and insisting on aspects of the game that didn't suit his squad. Even for Xavi's signings, it took a different perspective to unlock their potential. Be it with Lewa's role centred about him receiving high amount of chances and finishing, about which he often complained, making Raphinha work, or capitalising on Pedri's vision and natural verticality. Could go on here.
Xavi's overall attitude was toxic and plain wrong, often blame shifting and demoralising the squad in public. Made the audience believe their peak was lower than it was, not to mention how it influenced the squad.
Xavi was like a parent to a natural born athlete who he scolds and undermines because he's not great at, say, mathematics.
So it's obvious he was holding the squad back.
When Flick came, people expected him to insist on a rigid setup which we didn't have the players for, apparently. Turns out it was Xavi reading his squad wrong and insisting on aspects of the game that didn't suit his squad. Even for Xavi's signings, it took a different perspective to unlock their potential. Be it with Lewa's role centred about him receiving high amount of chances and finishing, about which he often complained, making Raphinha work, or capitalising on Pedri's vision and natural verticality. Could go on here.
Xavi's overall attitude was toxic and plain wrong, often blame shifting and demoralising the squad in public. Made the audience believe their peak was lower than it was, not to mention how it influenced the squad.
Xavi was like a parent to a natural born athlete who he scolds and undermines because he's not great at, say, mathematics.
So it's obvious he was holding the squad back.
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Loki
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Yes, that was his worst con and also the main reason, why Laporta decided to sack him after all the back and forth. Publicly announcing you don't believe in the squad to mask your own shortcomings was a disgrace from Xavi.
If Flick shows anything, then that you can compete with this squad.
Temptation
Well-known member
And tactics obviously.
Managers with tactical acumen and personality issues have careers like Tuchel and Conte, not like Xavi.........
gregorrin10
Senior Member
The difference between a world class MANager at the top of his field, surrounded by the same level of people,
and an amateur, basically a semi pro coach, surrounded by the same level of people.
Simple.
There's levels to this.
jamrock
Senior Member
No his tactics were generally okay, most important games he played, he generally sat the team up very well, only big game he royally messed up was the 4-0 to Madrid and the game at home to Bayern and by then we were already out of the CL.
Most other big games, even those he lost, he did well tactically.
Bayern
Inter
Madrid
A.M
PSG.
He lost against Man Utd and ETH had the better of him those games and the Frankfurt game, which I don't really care about.
He tactics are sound if not super exciting for a young coach, which is why I'm certain he'll do well in a different situation, if given the resources.
His personality is the biggest issue, which I think we get better at a club he cares less about.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Xavi was actually strong tactically, but was more of slow reactor at times.
To his credit, he can be a bit of innovative more than he gets credit for.
His main problem that when opponents made adjustments, it could take him a couple of weeks to react to it.
jamrock
Senior Member
His weakness tactically was more in the game in game out regular la Liga games, where teams would figure out some he's doing and he didn't react fast enough, it's like he wanted to be absolutely sure before he tried someone new.
The old plan B, is going plan A better, type thing.
But I'm big games, I was never really nervous with him as our coach, I knew he would set the team up well.
The old plan B, is going plan A better, type thing.
But I'm big games, I was never really nervous with him as our coach, I knew he would set the team up well.
companyofcules
Well-known member
He was LVG level tactic wise. That's it. If you rate LVG World Class, Xavi is too.
Both egocentric, both in their rabbit hole, both unable to see the true potential and the best position of players, both unable to see that players win over good tactics every time when it matters and they are motivated.
Him filling Barcelona with mediocre players that obey him is the ultimate arrogance.
Not surprising Flick managed to use them better since his game is not as demanding on quality but on movement. Any fool can move.
Xavi built a squad of mediocre players incarcerated in a tactic that demands huge players to move things around.
That's because, as that low IQ Pique, he didn't see the importance of Messi or Neymar.
In his delusion he believed he was the main guy in our golden teams.
That being said the lack of quality is still very present in our games even when we win. Chaotic games, lack of posesion, lack of 1v1 take ons
Both egocentric, both in their rabbit hole, both unable to see the true potential and the best position of players, both unable to see that players win over good tactics every time when it matters and they are motivated.
Him filling Barcelona with mediocre players that obey him is the ultimate arrogance.
Not surprising Flick managed to use them better since his game is not as demanding on quality but on movement. Any fool can move.
Xavi built a squad of mediocre players incarcerated in a tactic that demands huge players to move things around.
That's because, as that low IQ Pique, he didn't see the importance of Messi or Neymar.
In his delusion he believed he was the main guy in our golden teams.
That being said the lack of quality is still very present in our games even when we win. Chaotic games, lack of posesion, lack of 1v1 take ons
draconifire
NTC with a Positive attitude
Xavi has a knack for talent.
His problem was his rigidity in his tactical setup, not adapting to the player's profile, and the biggest of all is his attitude.
He should have been a substitute coach first, a B team manager, and then he should have moved in to coach the bigger teams.
His problem was his rigidity in his tactical setup, not adapting to the player's profile, and the biggest of all is his attitude.
He should have been a substitute coach first, a B team manager, and then he should have moved in to coach the bigger teams.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
Well-known member
This dude is different, dont know what he gave them in ht break but team was on fire in 2nd half
iniestaGOAT
Senior Member
We are so back!
Thank you Flick
Fuck you lewandowski
Could have been 6
Thank you Flick
Fuck you lewandowski
Could have been 6
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