Hans-Dieter Flick

[Iniesta Ultra]

This idea that football should be a machine is everything that's wrong with the world. MK slaves everywhere under full soul depraved roboticism.

Imagine Flick telling Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Ney in their prime they have to play machineball. He would've been fired in two months.

 

[Birdy]

This idea that football should be a machine is everything that's wrong with the world. MK slaves everywhere under full soul depraved roboticism.

Imagine Flick telling Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Ney in their prime they have to play machineball. He would've been fired in two months.

Let's be fair mate and don't create false accusations that do not hold

Would Flick ever tell these players where exactly to pass for instance?
The most robotic coach in the world is Pep who wants to control everything, and even himself let Messi-Xavi-Iniesta complete freedom when they were close to the final 3rd

 

[FCMessi]

Pulling Raphina and Olmo 1:1 at Betis with 20 min left.

still trying to milk something out of the Segunda posers.

 

[Birdy]

Pulling Raphina and Olmo 1:1 at Betis with 20 min left.

still trying to milk something out of the Segunda posers.

Dortmund mid-week, and trying to prevent a fatal injury to both

He is not responsible for the flimpsy depth the board gave him

 

[Iniesta Ultra]

Let's be fair mate and don't create false accusations that do not hold

Would Flick ever tell these players where exactly to pass for instance?
The most robotic coach in the world is Pep who wants to control everything, and even himself let Messi-Xavi-Iniesta complete freedom when they were close to the final 3rd

Flick tells them to pass vertical quickly as possible including hail marys regardless of multiple markers in super low probability link up. That's the opposite of control relying on running like pigs.

Pep turned City into semi-machine tiki taka since he has the most technical players, and with Rodri out KDB coming back that recently fails too not mention even without injuries they're a bore to watch.

Skill, art, intelligence are primary to any elite team worth rooting for. Art being #1. Irony of hardened fans decrying Iniesta as a choirboy when music theory is applicable to optimizing everything in life. Dissonance is fundamental to violence and disintegration.

 

[serghei]

Otoh how he handles midfield and attack with direct and risky plays is a very welcome change.

I disagree. It causes calamities at the back and is a direct cause of the high number of shots opponents take towards our goal.

I prefer a more controlled approach to the end to end chaos we have now.

 

[serghei]

Of course, if somehow Flick brings titles with this frantic football approach, I will gladly accept it and take my hat off, even though it's not exactly my cup of tea.

 

[iniestaGOAT]

Flick might just the most clueless manager I have ever seen in my life.

That's saying something considering our last manager was a fucking rookie

 

[BJJ]

I disagree. It causes calamities at the back and is a direct cause of the high number of shots opponents take towards our goal.

I prefer a more controlled approach to the end to end chaos we have now.

Having a more chaotic approach makes you more unpredictable. When you control all the possession you become predictable and the opposition sit back and know what to expect. If Pep had a bit more chaos we would have beaten Inter.
Alot of people forget the fact that Pep had probably the greatest squad of all time.
This team has good players but they're soft and inconsistent. Except for maybe Raphinha I don't see any leadership on the pitch.

 

[BJJ]

Breaking

The Barca board are beginning to have doubts about Hansi Flick’s suitability to Spanish football
@El Pais

His suitability? At this rate we will just hire some la liga manager, win an occasional title and get smashed in the CL as usual.
While la liga may require more control the CL requires greater intensity and cut and thrust.
I really cannot understand the issue with this team. It looks more mental, than anything else.

 

[Ter Stature]

His suitability? At this rate we will just hire some la liga manager, win an occasional title and get smashed in the CL as usual.
While la liga may require more control the CL requires greater intensity and cut and thrust.
I really cannot understand the issue with this team. It looks more mental, than anything else.

Of course the issue is mental, adding all the players in the world won't help if they don't perform regularly. Flick hasn't show the cold bench to them or they don't care.

 

[Birdy]

Flick tells them to pass vertical quickly as possible including hail marys regardless of multiple markers in super low probability link up. That's the opposite of control relying on running like pigs.

That's factually untrue, he doesn't tell them that
Look up his post-match presser after Betis, explaining precisely that

 

[Birdy]

Having a more chaotic approach makes you more unpredictable. When you control all the possession you become predictable and the opposition sit back and know what to expect. If Pep had a bit more chaos we would have beaten Inter.
Alot of people forget the fact that Pep had probably the greatest squad of all time.
This team has good players but they're soft and inconsistent. Except for maybe Raphinha I don't see any leadership on the pitch.

Don't buy into the BS of folk that are clueless about football

Direct football is not 'chaotic' as idiots say.
'Chaotic' means no structure, no tactics, no identity, no instruction.
Chaotic is the football you might have played in the schoolyard with no coach and no formation even

It's obvious that Flick is one of the most meticulous coaches out there, paying attention to the tiniest detail, like all greats. He simply has a different tactical pov compared to the common slow positional buildup style that Pep propagated. He plays direct football based on: high-intensity SUFFOCATING pressing, high last line, forcing opponents into mistakes into crucial areas. Much like Klopp's prime Pool.

Difference is WC coaches like Pep can win with slow buildup patterns.
Amateurs like Xavi who copy ideas w/o properly understanding them, can only profess positional buildup, but fail miserably to implement it

 

[Iniesta Ultra]

That's factually untrue, he doesn't tell them that
Look up his post-match presser after Betis, explaining precisely that

Even worse they're doing the opposite of what he says then.

 

[khaled_a_d]

I disagree. It causes calamities at the back and is a direct cause of the high number of shots opponents take towards our goal.

I prefer a more controlled approach to the end to end chaos we have now.

How do you define controled?
The team average the highest possession per game in Liga since 19/20 season, so surely not controling the ball.

You want a safer approach and lesser risks? But that's what made us a consistently declining team for the past decade. Football now is about quickness and ability to surprise your opponents to create chances, risks comes with that.

That is especially true when we have limited number of creative player. Lamine is the only creative attacker we have, and none of our midfielders is an elite creator atm. There is no individual brilliance to rely on with a controlled approach.

I would like a more conservative defense, but I am willing to take the risk of better attack if it means conceding some goals, this is actually the true Barca DNA.[/QUOTE]