Hans-Dieter Flick

[Don Juan Laporta Estruch]

Put this shit into Twitter and show me one quote that pops up you fucking clown

Can't be arsed and you would get knocked the fuck out if you talked to me like that in real life, you attention seeking gimp.

 

[Messi983]

He would be amongst the best coaches not just in the world but in history if season would only last 2-3 months and he could ran his starters to the ground without worrying about rest and rotations too much. But season is a marathon not a sprint.

My first worrying sign was after one of the first games of the season (don't remember which one) when he said something like "we couldn't press for 90 minutes and that will never happen again".

First you can't press effectively with a 36 year old grandpa as basically your first defender. Pep had Eto'o in his prime years who could ran two marathons in one game, Flick has Lewa on his last legs.

So he compensated for that using Lamine and especially Raphinha as first line of pressure. But ofc that brings consequences too as they will eventually get tired. I think they already are and hopefully there won't be any injuries but wouldn't surprise me to see their level drop in coming months. And Lewa is already looking like Lewa of second halfs of last two seasons (remember he started both of these seasons well too).

And second you can't expect to press full 90 minutes for a whole season. No team can do that and no smart coach would expect that from his players. Especially not in a competitive league when you don't have by far the best team like in Bayernliga. Without horse injections that made Goretzka look like Hulk too, lol. So you can't have press, press, press as your plans A, B, C, D,...

Yes, we probably don't have the perfect players for Flick's system but we all knew that when he took over. But if he's as good as some here believe he should still get the most out of existing squad. And not just for first two months of the season. If he wants to stay beyond this season he'll need to adapt because his plan A won't always work. Even "idiot" Xavi adapted and started to use four midfielders when he saw Busi struggled defensively, played 3 atb in some games etc. I don't care what formation we play but at least show some adaptability.

But Flick seemingly only knows one way to play. When that works we look like a top 5 team in Europe. When it doesn't we are in lower table form. I know every team has their up and downs and hopefully we are past our worst but there are some concerning patterns. And I was already seeing things I didn't like when everyone was elated we were beating likes of Valladolid 7-0. Why did we have to beat a dead horse? 3-0 or 7-0 against relegation fodder doesn't matter in a league that uses head to head and not goal difference as a potential tie-breaker.

Why Lamine and Raphi had to play those early games full 90 minutes? Not only you risk potential injuries but minutes accumulate fast so then they were suddenly tired ahead of a tough away game in Pamplona. As a coach you need to look not just one or two games ahead but in what state your team will be in 3-4 months. Ofc there are some things you can't predict but overusing key players early in the season is never a good sign.

 

[delancey]

Flick needs a 🐐 to close some of these tight games.

 

[Messigician]

Can't be arsed and you would get knocked the fuck out if you talked to me like that in real life, you attention seeking gimp.

You’ll do fkn nothing yer mums yer dad

 

[jamrock]

I want us to not rush attacks constantly resulting in chaotic end to end games. More structure, less chaos. It doesn't mean that some directness is not welcome. Flick needs to fix it or we will continue to face multiple shots because teams in La Liga defend pretty well and know how to attack spaces. Teams have a go at us far more often than in the past, I do not like this. You can't score 3-4 goals in every match and if you constantly face 10+ shots at your goal you will lose too many points in the long run.

So far, if we don't score 3+ vs a decent team, we tend to lose points. It's a real problem and it's not something light.

We should be playing like Barca with some german edge, not like a naive German team with a feint Barcelona resemblance.

Good response.

 

[TacticsTim]

This team under flick has a clear style and gameplay, there are clears patterns of play and attacking movements as well as defensive shape. Under Xavi there was nothing and they couldn't even keep the ball vs mid table teams.

This team needs to get rid of the likes of kounde, de jong, pedri, gavi, Garcia, fati, ferran these are players who are not good enough. At least 2 midfielders need to be bought who are not midgets instead as well as 2 right backs and a real left back. Then a left winger to rotate.

Then we can talk about competing consistently

 

[jamrock]

AK,serghei and messi983 have given very good explanations of what he needs to adjust.

But it doesn't even need all that.

It's simple, he has to learn, YOU CAN WIN A GAME BY 1 goal.

That has absolutely nothing to do with changing style and old Barca ways and all that other irrelevant points.

If you are 2-1 up with 15-20 minutes left and you're a top, those game should be on the bag 95% of the time.

How are you doing to be 1 goal up and you're the one that's pushing your FB forward and your defense on the half way line, thus giving your opponents space to exploit, it obviously should be the other way around.

 

[Loki]

AK,serghei and messi983 have given very good explanations of what he needs to adjust.

But it doesn't even need all that.

It's simple, he has to learn, YOU CAN WIN A GAME BY 1 goal.

That has absolutely nothing to do with changing style and old Barca ways and all that other irrelevant points.

If you are 2-1 up with 15-20 minutes left and you're a top, those game should be on the bag 95% of the time.

How are you doing to be 1 goal up and you're the one that's pushing your FB forward and your defense on the half way line, thus giving your opponents space to exploit, it obviously should be the other way around.

People who blame the system don't understand the core of the problem. There is no magical way to hold a one goal win. Playing more defensively can invite the opponent to press more and he can score the same amount of goals against a deeper defense. There are thousands good and bad examples in every system.
We won the first games under Flick with one goal difference without problems with the same system. So what happened, did he forget how to win with 1 goal difference after 2 months?
No, the reason is because we controlled the games. You can controll it offensively with a high line, or defensevely with a deep backline, or you can lose control in both systems and concede. It has nothing to do with the system, but the players either physically able to control the game or not.

Most of the people that are blaming Flick for playing too high while leading are the same people, who insult the coach of sitting too deep while leading and conceding.

 

[jamrock]

People who blame the system don't understand the core of the problem. There is no magical way to hold a one goal win. Playing more defensively can invite the opponent to press more and he can score the same amount of goals against a deeper defense. There are thousands good and bad examples in every system.
We won the first games under Flick with one goal difference without problems with the same system. Why? Because we controlled the game. You can controll it offensively with a high line, or defensevely with a deep backline, or you can lose control in both systems and concede. It has nothing to do with the system, but the players either physically able to control the game or not.

You're wrong.

 

[serghei]

The stats are out there mate. We are midtable in expected goals against. Last season we were 0.83xGA per match, now 1.34. We defend much worse than even last season which was not very good. It's a fact.

We either score 3+ a game with very rare exceptions or we'll have problems going like this.

 

[Messi983]

This team under flick has a clear style and gameplay, there are clears patterns of play and attacking movements as well as defensive shape. Under Xavi there was nothing and they couldn't even keep the ball vs mid table teams.

This team needs to get rid of the likes of kounde, de jong, pedri, gavi, Garcia, fati, ferran these are players who are not good enough. At least 2 midfielders need to be bought who are not midgets instead as well as 2 right backs and a real left back. Then a left winger to rotate.

Then we can talk about competing consistently

Xavi won the league with mostly these same players and Dumbele who is nowhere close to Yamal so can argue Flick has a better team and expectations should be he also wins La Liga.

Also, when Xavi said team needs improvement his haters disagreed and praised Hansi to believe in this team but now after few months he also realised we need to improve in certain positions.

Good double standards.

 

[Loki]

You're wrong.

That's your opinion. My opinion about people demanding things like you do I edited in the last sentence. But you can keep ignoring the fact, that every team in every system is capable to concede while leading and keep demanding a change like an opportunist as if there is a magical solution to keep the lead.

 

[jamrock]

I wonder when was the last time a team won la Liga by conceding 40-48 goals, because that's what it's looking like will happen this season, I think his Bayern team conceded about the same when they won.

 

[serghei]

It is irrelevant if his tactics could work with a superb team. We don't have it, and he was brought to coach this team with these problems not some super side with a top class 18-21 players squad.

He got into this project accepting the challenge to implement his vision with this core. Everybody knew how tough it is.

 

[Don Juan Laporta Estruch]

You’ll do fkn nothing yer mums yer dad

Haha of course I won't, because your hiding behind your computer. Lil net nerd's got his tits in a tangle.

Now go get ya fucking shoe shine box from Twitter.