Puyol the wall
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Hey i was not comparing them dude but back then i felt HBA would reach a higher level.
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Puyol the wall
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Anderson won the mighty Epl 3 times and the CL once so is he world class.Won the French League 5 times
RedMadridista
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Ben Arfa only performs for the small clubs. He's a big fish in a small pond.
Hatem Ben Arfa
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Players are supposed to be at their peak from 28-30.
He still has plenty of time.
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Lyon and Marseille small clubs?
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Won the league five times...yeah the first three he played 9, 12 and 13 matches, I'm sure his presence was vital. Even in full pomp at Marseille he managed 3 league goals and 3 assists on the way to winning the league. John O'Shea has a UCL winner's medal.
RedMadridista
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Why is Ben Arfa at Newcastle? Surely if he's world class the big teams would want him, no?
He couldn't hack it at Lyon..
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2 completely different players.
RedMadridista
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They both got rid because he was shit.
Puyol the wall
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Okay then Nani won the Epl 3 times and the CL once is he world class then
Hatem Ben Arfa
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Is that your logic?
World Class players can't be found playing for clubs like Newcastle? Only Top 4 clubs
And tell me how many points & where did Newcastle finish in the Premier League this season? and tell me if they still had a chance of finishing 3rd on the very last day of the Premier League season?
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RedMadridista
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Is that your logic?
World Class players can't be found playing for clubs like Newcastle? Only Top 4 clubs
And tell me how many points where did Newcastle finish in the Premier League this season? and tell me if they still had a chance of finishing 3rd on the very last day of the Premier League?
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Hatem Ben Arfa
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your Football knowledge is very limited.
They got rid because he fell out with several teammates(physical fights) and also had huge arguments with his managers.
Deschamps told him to find another club after a huge argument, but later changed his mind and wanted him stay at Marsielle. They were not going to sell him and told him he was going nowhere, but to get his move Newcastle he went on strike and claimed he was happy to go on strike for a whole season and miss a year of football if Marseille didn't let him move to Newcastle. Karma being a funny thing he actually missed 1 year and bit of football with a severely broken leg.
Marsielle were so reluctant to sell him that they only sanctioned him to move to Newcastle on loan with Newcastle paying loan fee of £2 million pounds, with Newcastle having the option to buy him if they paid an extra £5 million after he plays a certain number of games.
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Hatem Ben Arfa
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Okay then Nani won the Epl 3 times and the CL once is he world class then
Number of trophies is not the logic or criteria I use to describe Ben Arfa or anyone else as World Class.
Someone said he's 25 years old and asked what does he have to show for it? He has 5 Ligue 1 titles to show for it.
He was 17, 18 an 19 years old in those seasons you are talking about. Overall all competitions he played 14, 14, 16 and the season after 41 games for Lyon. He played his part. And he definitely played his part when he won the League with Marseilles.
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Puyol the wall
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Ben Arfa is one of the few entertaining players the PL has but just because he plays in the PL doesn't mean we can put him in the bracket of Messi and call him world class.
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