İlkay Gündoğan

Meitux

Active member
Busquets used to be an attacking midfielder for Barca B and in la masia. It is quite obvious the way he plays. Anyway, we dont really play attacking midfielders like Dortmund do. We play posession based CMs.
Its not irrelevant,central midfielders don't always stay deep and don't go to attack.Busquets simply doesn't convince about it.

You talk about Gundogan losing possesion based of seeing not the whole match but just a video,from the moment he wasn't used as central midfielder/box to box his main position and was used as attacking midfielder in the absense of Mkhitaryan.Its clear that attacking midfielders take more risks but that doesn't mean Gundogan is not a specialist in keeping possesion.You should watch some more games of him and not simply videos where he has been used in a different role.
 
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Learo

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Its not irrelevant,central midfielders don't always stay deep and don't go to attack.Busquets simply doesn't convince about it.

You talk about Gundogan losing possesion based of seeing not the whole match but just a video,from the moment he wasn't used as central midfielder/box to box his main position and was used as attacking midfielder in the absense of Mkhitaryan.Its clear that attacking midfielders take more risks but that doesn't mean Gundogan is not a specialint in keeping possesion.You should watch some more games of him and not simply videos where he has been used in a different role.

Busquets has all the qualities and experience to succeed as CM IMO, and I think the time is right to continue our tradition of moving our DM up to CM.

I have watched Gundogan plenty of times. I think it is almost unthinkable that we would not play a La Masia graduate as our main midfield architect.
 

Aryagorn

Improvin' Perfection!!
Busquets has always been the worthy successor candidate for Xavi... It's now more logical to do that as we are playing with 2 attacking full backs anyway!!

an attack of Neymar and Messi, supported by Iniesta and Cesc backed up by Busi & another DM could actually raise havoc with the opponents
 

psychotsek

Member
Busquets has always been the worthy successor candidate for Xavi... It's now more logical to do that as we are playing with 2 attacking full backs anyway!!

an attack of Neymar and Messi, supported by Iniesta and Cesc backed up by Busi & another DM could actually raise havoc with the opponents

He sure has the quality but he lacks in vision,sharpness and speed of thought.He has other qualities and that's due to his training to become a better defensive midfielder.
 

ccesc

New member
2 weeks out.
Thanks Jogi Löw for letting him play tattered from the start on in such a nonrelevent game, so he had to be substituted after 30 minutes because of injury.
Reus was also in the first 11, although he wasn't fit neither.

Schweinebestesteiger on the other hand could stay at home. He said on thursday (before Bayerns first Bundesliga game in which he played) that he isn't fit enough to play in the national team. Schweinsteiger missed the last 11 (!) friendlies of germany.

However, Jogi Löw is an unbelievable bad coach. But thats another story.
 
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instinct

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Bad news, bad for him and for Dortmund.. I hope BVB will win the two games without Mkhitaryan and Gündo, even 2-1 or 1-0 or something.
 

DennyCrane

Senior Member
2 weeks out.
Thanks Jogi Löw for letting him play tattered from the start on in such a nonrelevent game, so he had to be substituted after 30 minutes because of injury.
Reus was also in the first 11, although he wasn't fit neither.

Schweinebestesteiger on the other hand could stay at home. He said on thursday (before Bayerns first Bundesliga game in which he played) that he isn't fit enough to play in the national team. Schweinsteiger missed the last 11 (!) friendlies of germany.

However, Jogi Löw is an unbelievable bad coach. But thats another story.

:lol: the correct pronunciation is only known to Didier Dechamps though, as illustrated here:

 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
2 weeks out.
Thanks Jogi Löw for letting him play tattered from the start on in such a nonrelevent game, so he had to be substituted after 30 minutes because of injury.
Reus was also in the first 11, although he wasn't fit neither.

Schweinebestesteiger on the other hand could stay at home. He said on thursday (before Bayerns first Bundesliga game in which he played) that he isn't fit enough to play in the national team. Schweinsteiger missed the last 11 (!) friendlies of germany.

However, Jogi Löw is an unbelievable bad coach. But thats another story.

Damn it. I hope Sahin will step up to the plate.
 

ccesc

New member
Damn it. I hope Sahin will step up to the plate.

Gündogan played as 10, because Mkhitaryan was/is injured. Sahin and Bender were CDM.
Next two games will be against Braunschweig and Bremen. They should be beatable without Gündogan. We still have Aubameyang, Reus, Kuba, Hofmann and Lewandowski in attack.
 

Meitux

Active member
Aubameyang left wing Reus as attacking midfielder and Blaszczykowski at right wing seems more likely. Is Mkhitaryan close on coming back?
 

ccesc

New member
Aubameyang left wing Reus as attacking midfielder and Blaszczykowski at right wing seems more likely. Is Mkhitaryan close on coming back?

Yes I think thats it. Mkhitaryan will probably be on bench next game. Maybe he will even get some minutes.
 
2 weeks out.
Thanks Jogi Löw for letting him play tattered from the start on in such a nonrelevent game, so he had to be substituted after 30 minutes because of injury.
Reus was also in the first 11, although he wasn't fit neither.

Schweinebestesteiger on the other hand could stay at home. He said on thursday (before Bayerns first Bundesliga game in which he played) that he isn't fit enough to play in the national team. Schweinsteiger missed the last 11 (!) friendlies of germany.

However, Jogi Löw is an unbelievable bad coach. But thats another story.

Its was obvious for everybody that Schweinsteiger is not fit so of course he stayed home and it was a perfect opportunity to give Gündogan a chance, as he normally sits on the bench while Schweinsteiger is playing when the qualification games coming. He finally has to play one game and you instantly complaining about that? Kroos became father so who else should have started instead of him?

Totally agree on the Jogi part though.
 

ccesc

New member
The problem is that Gündogan wasn't fit either. Löw could have played Lars or Sven Bender instead.
But I thought about it. I think it is Gündogans fault, too. I think Löw asked Gündogan if he feels fine and is able to play and Gündogan said "yes" because he wants to take his chance, although he wasn't even fit.
 

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