İlkay Gündoğan
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Got nothing to do with steep decline and everything to do with Xavi.
People just don't turn to shit in 3 or 4 months because of age. It's the manager who 8d the issue.
Xavi would make Mbappe look like a washed up 35vyear old.
KingHristo
Member
As the commentator during the game said, he's probably already regretting the move, lol. He was very good under Klopp, and world class under Guardiola. Players of his class don't just revert to being mediocre between seasons... The problem is Xavi might very well coach any quality out of him as he did to many players already.
malvolio
Senior Member
Gundogan wasn't the star player under Klopp or Guardiola. He was a good player in a very well oiled machine with other good/very good players surrounding him.
This time he has Xavi and a mediocre squad who look like they don't know each other even after 2 seasons of playing together.
This time he has Xavi and a mediocre squad who look like they don't know each other even after 2 seasons of playing together.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
He absolutely was one of Citys best players past few seasons.
iniestaGOAT
Senior Member
This man carried the team to PL when they were playing with no ST
Show some respecto the man GUNDOGAN
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
We are the master of making good players look like shit in half a year or one year. Look at Lewy, Coutinho, Griezmann.. list goes on.
Basically everyone becomes a donkey playing for Barca.
Horatio
You're welcome
But you're hyping up Lewa like crazy even though his decline kicked in a year ago. Hater.
Donauwelle
Member
Gündogan did not take the creative part in that midfield - that was de Bruyne. And the one with the big passing range and the defensive skills was Rodri.
Gündogan was the levelheaded guy in that midfield that added sometimes some goals (again coming from behind when others were occupying the defenders) with a very good conversion rate.
He is not very creative, does not really think defensively, is not the passing machine like a Kroos - and is not dynamic at all.
Yeah, right. Now he's shit.
Barca forum at its best. Captained City to a treble but he didn't do shit at City.
malvolio
Senior Member
What is it with some retards that choose to make statements based on what they see on Flashscore?
Gundogan being captain and scoring some important goals last season doesn't make him the star of the team.
Rodri, KDB, Haaland were all more important. Gundogan was good for them, but not someone they couldn't do wihtout. And he never was a player that you build a team around. A good player in some very good teams.
Gundogan being captain and scoring some important goals last season doesn't make him the star of the team.
Rodri, KDB, Haaland were all more important. Gundogan was good for them, but not someone they couldn't do wihtout. And he never was a player that you build a team around. A good player in some very good teams.
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