Ivan Rakitić

Raketa10

Senior Member
No dude, I watched clouds spinning around.

"Far better", "Raki brilliant" Busquets was not anything special but those are too big a words for Raki's performances for us last season.

The problem is that Busi is hugely overrated in this forum and he lives on his past glory. If you dare to criticize him you are classified as an enemy while criticizing Rakitic is welcomed. I agree that he was perfect in 4-3-3 with Xavi and Iniesta but today when tiki-taka is no longer alive he is not a top class player anymore.
 
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Zidane82

Well-known member
You are in a wrong forum . 90% of Pepistas here attacks this thread with missiles and bombes one's he performs badly . If Rakitic had Busi's stats last season , he would get all the blame for everything that we didn't do right . He is one of the most criticised player in this forum . apart from few members none seems to have bothered about good things he has done for Barca .

If you check back through this very thread you will see that the majority defend Rakitic ...
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Never knew that calling him Back maestro , shit , Editing siggys with his head on Doggy's body can be classed as criticism . Begining of the last season he was getting all the blame for everything that went wrong and Busquets was untouchable despite him being equally poor . That's the bias i am talking about . I was surfing from A laptop i could have digged all those posts . Unfortunately i can't do that in my mobile

It doesn't, but don't put that shit on me. I've defended Rakitic a lot in the past, but I don't really believe he should ideally be a starter for us anymore.

I'm willing to discuss it. I already did last page, or the page before that and explained why I would prefer Busquets over Rakitic. You're welcome to make your case about it then we can discuss it.

But if you're going to whine or cry about my opinion then it's nothing I can do because I don't really give a shit. Not talking about you specifically, to everyone.
 
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Voldblake

Banned
You are in a wrong forum . 90% of Pepistas here attacks this thread with missiles and bombes one's he performs badly . If Rakitic had Busi's stats last season , he would get all the blame for everything that we didn't do right . He is one of the most criticised player in this forum . apart from few members none seems to have bothered about good things he has done for Barca .

What has Pep got to do with Rakitic?
 

RMU ReBorn

New member
If you check back through this very thread you will see that the majority defend Rakitic ...
Back in August 2017 only handful of people defended him here . It wasn't even crticism . Abuses and the hate he got was something people should be ashamed of holding 'Mes que un club' values

It doesn't, but don't put that shit on me. I've defended Rakitic a lot in the past, but I don't really believe he should ideally be a starter for us anymore.

I'm willing to discuss it. I already did last page, or the page before that and explained why I would prefer Busquets over Rakitic. You're welcome to make your case about it then we can discuss it.

But if you're going to whine or cry about my opinion then it's nothing I can do because I don't really give a shit. Not talking about you specifically, to everyone.
I have already discussed it over here and posted the stats in previous pages and the reason to back Rakitic over Busi in this system . And didn't put the blame on you . What i said was , majority was shitting on him back in August last year . where you are claiming that he wasn't getting trashed . Which is not true

What has Pep got to do with Rakitic?

Few people who are living in past glory thinks that every Barca player should pass the ball & posess footballing style in which Pep's Barca played football
 

Joan

Well-known member
You are in a wrong forum . 90% of Pepistas here attacks this thread with missiles and bombes one's he performs badly . If Rakitic had Busi's stats last season , he would get all the blame for everything that we didn't do right . He is one of the most criticised player in this forum . apart from few members none seems to have bothered about good things he has done for Barca .

There's no right forum in that regard. Even on Croatian boards he's the most hated player among Barcelona fans. By far. Usual suspects aside (Gomes, Paco and so on). People like to blame Rakitić for everything bad, but the truth is he's a very valube part of the team. Covering for Messi, often Busquets, running for them, winning 50-50 balls... playing 70 matches a year. Where do you find such players?

Busquets used to be a great CDM, now he's more of a playmaker than ever before. Skills need to be utilized better. Honestly think Rakitić will look way better with true wingers in front of him.
 

George_Costanza

Active member
The problem is that Busi is hugely overrated in this forum and he lives on his past glory. Yeah he was perfect in 4-3-3 with Xavi and Iniesta but today when tiki-taka is no longer alive he is not a world class player anymore.

WTF I'm reading? an utter nonsense, not even worth rolling my eyes!
 

RMU ReBorn

New member
There's no right forum in that regard. Even on Croatian boards he's the most hated player among Barcelona fans. By far. Usual suspects aside (Gomes, Paco and so on). People like to blame Rakitić for everything bad, but the truth is he's a very valube part of the team. Covering for Messi, often Busquets, running for them, winning 50-50 balls... playing 70 matches a year. Where do you find such players?

Busquets used to be a great CDM, now he's more of a playmaker than ever before. Skills need to be utilized better. Honestly think Rakitić will look way better with true wingers in front of him.
Agree .
 

Voldblake

Banned
Few people who are living in past glory thinks that every Barca player should pass the ball and posess footballing style in which Pep's Barca played football .

Isn't passing Rakitic's main strengths?

And you're assuming Pep's supporters are the ones who hate on Rakitic. Barcelona played possession style even after Pep so what's your point here?
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I have already discussed it over here and posted the stats in previous pages and the reason to back Rakitic over Busi in this system . And didn't put the blame on you . What i said was , majority was shitting on him back in August last year . where you are claiming that he wasn't getting trashed . Which is not true

No, I said a minority trashes him like that. You have it both ways. Even have people here that claims Rakitic is a much better midfielder than Modric which is a ludicrous statement.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
It doesn't, but don't put that shit on me. I've defended Rakitic a lot in the past, but I don't really believe he should ideally be a starter for us anymore.

I'm willing to discuss it. I already did last page, or the page before that and explained why I would prefer Busquets over Rakitic. You're welcome to make your case about it then we can discuss it.

But if you're going to whine or cry about my opinion then it's nothing I can do because I don't really give a shit. Not talking about you specifically, to everyone.

I was the one who said that we should consider selling him if we get the right amount but ONLY if we find a better solution. Now please enlighten me who should be a starter instead of him and why? If we got Pogba or Verratti or someone on that level you would have a case and I would agree with you but as things stand right now he will be a starter. I hope that Arthur proves he is a new Xavi, and Alena reaches his potential. I also hope that we’ll sign De Jong and that Puig becomes new Iniesta but before that happens we don’t have much of a choice.

WTF I'm reading? an utter nonsense, not even worth rolling my eyes!

Are you willing to claim that Busi performance in the last two seasons could be described as a WORLD CLASS? And please leave Rakitic out of discussion for once. Can you honestly say that?

Can we for once talk about his present displays instead of the ones back from Pep’s era when he was unbelievably good?
 

Joan

Well-known member
No, I said a minority trashes him like that. You have it both ways. Even have people here that claims Rakitic is a much better midfielder than Modric which is a ludicrous statement.

Yeah? Who? That's hilarious.
 

RMU ReBorn

New member
Isn't passing Rakitic's main strengths?

And you're assuming Pep's supporters are the ones who hate on Rakitic. Barcelona played possession style even after Pep so what's your point here?
90% of those who are shitting on Rakitic are those who drools over Pep and his style . Barca played possession football after Pep but was much direct giving less importance to midfield with MSN as the focal point . And In last season we played 442 for the major part . Pep's style is different and was heavily dependent on a genius like Xavi . That's why he hasn't won a knock out tie convincingly against any top European teams after he left Barca

No, I said a minority trashes him like that. You have it both ways. Even have people here that claims Rakitic is a much better midfielder than Modric which is a ludicrous statement.
I haven't seen anyone claiming that Raki is better than Modric . In world cup he was better in few games and equally important . That's it .
 

George_Costanza

Active member
Are you willing to claim that Busi performance in the last two seasons could be described as a WORLD CLASS? And please leave Rakitic out of discussion for once. Can you honestly say that?

Can we for once talk about his present displays instead of the ones back from Pep’s era when he was unbelievably good?

That has nothing to do with Busquets himself but rather the ever-changing system and weak midfield. His been crowded out too often and left on his own with too much defensive work to do on his own. With an aging Iniesta and Racktic had to cover for S.Roberto defensive on the RB side, it obvious that Busquets carried the midfield on his own shoulder. The only relief came with EV switched to double pivot system.
 

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