Ivan Rakitić

[Zidane82]

There's nothing more to be said about him at this point.

All the things that made him useful are pretty much gone at this point. A traffic cone would be more effective than him at this point.

I was thinking a free~kick dummy .. as at least some wall passes would go forwards ..

 

[Joan]

Wasn't here today, mostly on Reddit and lots of people actually praised Rakitic. I myself thought he played a very solid match. Only to read your comments. I admit, I didn't expect this. As if we didn't watch the same match.

 

[Vahue]

Wasn't here today, mostly on Reddit and lots of people actually praised Rakitic. I myself thought he played a very solid match. Only to read your comments. I admit, I didn't expect this. As if we didn't watch the same match.

You always think he plays awesome. And so does Reddit.

 

[Kul_z]

He needs rest god dammit. Get him on the bench, and sub him for vidal or busquets and rotate them like every normal manager would do. He was nowhere near the players, pressure was out of point totally, he had like 4, 5 brainfarts i havent seen him do in half season matches combined last year. His head needs rest, game time but rest

 

[Givenchy]

Ivan "I'll rest when I'm dead" Rakitic

 

[te amo barca]

He played well.

 

[Raketa10]

At this point you just can’t deny that fucking PSG agreement with Valverde. Rakitic has become a huge cancer for Barcelona but nobody seems to realize it because he managed to fool everybody. People here compare this crap player with a legend like Busquets.

All his supposed strengths don’t exist anymore. He isn’t a controller, he isn’t an offensive treat, he isn’t a box to box, he isn’t a workhorse, and he isn’t good at defending either anymore.

I see people on this topic blaming Valverde for not resting Rakitic. What do you do about the automatic starter agreement ? Rakitic starts every game because he wants to and is happy with it. You can’t put all the blame on Valverde for that and only God knows how much I hate this coach.

You are a complete idiot.

 

[Joan]

It's a phenomenon this one. We often say not everything is in the stats, and that is true, but with Ivan, nothing's in the stats. 101 passes (96% accuracy), 7/8 long balls, 3/3 dribbles, 5/5 duels won, 3 interceptions (one of which was very nice, possibly stopped the goal), and yet, despite the numbers, managed to play worse that a traffic cone would. How are you doing it, Ivan? There, there, a realy mystery.

 

[KingLeo10]

It's a phenomenon this one. We often say not everything is in the stats, and that is true, but with Ivan, nothing's in the stats. 101 passes (96% accuracy), 7/8 long balls, 3/3 dribbles, 5/5 duels won, 3 interceptions (one of which was very nice, possibly stopped the goal), and yet, despite the numbers, managed to play worse that a traffic cone would. How are you doing it, Ivan? There, there, a realy mystery.

xabi alonso in the 14/15 and 15/16 seasons for bayern was averaging about 120-150 passes a game at a success rate of 90-95% (basically prime Xavi numbers). Yet, he was one of the main reasons why Bayern lost the midfield to us and Atletico in the away legs.

Turns out, he was mostly playing sideways passes. In fairness, Xavi himself was guilty of this beginning in 12-13 and then escalating in 13-14 (why we replaced him with rakitic in the first place).
For me, rakitic was world class in 14/15. He didn't have flashy numbers but he came up with crucial attacking passes and goals when needed (the pass to messi for his 2nd v bayern where he ended boateng; offensive movement in the box v juve in the cl final). He's became conservative, too concerned with his numbers, and a liability when pressured or faced versus a motivated opponent. Same is true for Busquets too but Busquets was at a higher level to begin with so his fall hasn't been as dramatic.

 

[George_Costanza]

It's a phenomenon this one. We often say not everything is in the stats, and that is true, but with Ivan, nothing's in the stats. 101 passes (96% accuracy), 7/8 long balls, 3/3 dribbles, 5/5 duels won, 3 interceptions (one of which was very nice, possibly stopped the goal), and yet, despite the numbers, managed to play worse that a traffic cone would. How are you doing it, Ivan? There, there, a realy mystery.

what was his speed though?

 

[CatalinR10]

i feel like we'll go out of the CL with him being one of the main reasons why

not that he's not a really good player but he'll be so overplayed by then that even denis suarez would look better than him

 

[Messigician]

Starting to think the Rakitic agreement is a real thing.

 

[Sorin]

Stats, stats, stats. Go watch baseball. Football isn't for you if you start evaluating players on stats. Ifhis stats were so impressive why in the hell did we look so lost in midfield? Seems like those stats are peak Xavi level and should mean we dominated the midfield. Instead we we failed to control the mid big tume. Does off the ball movenent nean something to you guys? That's why our mid looks so much better with Arthur in it. He passes and moves, passes and moves, thus creating opportunities to pass plus dragging players out of their position. Rakitic plays the pass and stays there. The opposition has an easier tine blocking our building phase. Check the stats on that. Oh you can't, you have to watch the fucking games because this thing that is very important, especially for a controling mid, is not captured by stats.

 

[BBZ8800]

Stats, stats, stats. Go watch baseball. Football isn't for you if you start evaluating players on stats. Ifhis stats were so impressive why in the hell did we look so lost in midfield? Seems like those stats are peak Xavi level and should mean we dominated the midfield. Instead we we failed to control the mid big tume. Does off the ball movenent nean something to you guys? That's why our mid looks so much better with Arthur in it. He passes and moves, passes and moves, thus creating opportunities to pass plus dragging players out of their position. Rakitic plays the pass and stays there. The opposition has an easier tine blocking our building phase. Check the stats on that. Oh you can't, you have to watch the fucking games because this thing that is very important, especially for a controling mid, is not captured by stats.

So funny.
You pick one part of football (off the ball movement in this case) and make a story out of it.

Let's say it this way: put 3 Arthurs in midfield, who move well, and we'll suck in other areas, like crosses, aerial duels, even defending, not to mention forward passes.
You are solving one problem, and creating 3 new problems.

Also, what about a false 9 tonight?
That shit also caused a lot of problems for our team since no one was in the box, which made easier for Villareal to park 2 buses around their box.
But let me guess: if we played mighty Malcom, Messi, Dembele, then "false 9" would work like a charm, right? So good

Or, since we didn't have a CF to drag the opponents away, and since Dembele is lost in our formation, or since Coutinho is not a Lw, our midfield sucked also.

You are blaming Rakitic's off the ball movement, I could make a story out of everything:
1. Semedo and his creative abilities, lol
2. Dembele and Semedo together on a field, ouch
3. Messi as a false 9, please kill me
4. Coutinho as a winger, horrible
5. slow and uncreative midfield combined with a RB who doesn't know how to play football and attacking line with 2 weird wingers and without a CF
6. an opponent parking 2 buses
7. Dembele and Coutinho crossing all the time, and our only aerial threat is 170cm short Messi who drops deep to a midfield position all the time

Our team is just balanced so "nicely" on so many levels.
Not because of Ernie but because of years of zero transfer strategy and because of tons transfers to please the fans (Arda, Coutinho, Dembele) and tons of mostly horrible 22-years old bought by Robert, mixed with our confussion whether to move on to a new style of play of follow Pep's ideas for the next 20 years.
Now add Ernie into all of this mess, and voila, you have a yesterday's match.

OR, you can simplify it and blame, let's say Rakitic and EV for everything.
If it makes you happy... Even though it doesn't have too much with reality.

Our team would need a few years of changes, a proper coach, tons of new players, tons of new clear ideas and sticking to it for 3-4 years.
That is the only way to solve this mess.

Alena and Setien won't magically solve this.

 

[Sorin]

So funny.
You pick one part of football (off the ball movement in this case) and make a story out of it.

Let's say it this way: put 3 Arthurs in midfield, who move well, and we'll suck in other areas, like crosses, aerial duels, even defending, not to mention forward passes.
You are solving one problem, and creating 3 new problems.

Also, what about a false 9 tonight?
That shit also caused a lot of problems for our team since no one was in the box, which made easier for Villareal to park 2 buses around their box.
But let me guess: if we played mighty Malcom, Messi, Dembele, then "false 9" would work like a charm, right? So good

Or, since we didn't have a CF to drag the opponents away, and since Dembele is lost in our formation, or since Coutinho is not a Lw, our midfield sucked also.

You are blaming Rakitic's off the ball movement, I could make a story out of everything:
1. Semedo and his creative abilities, lol
2. Dembele and Semedo together on a field, ouch
3. Messi as a false 9, please kill me
4. Coutinho as a winger, horrible
5. slow and uncreative midfield combined with a RB who doesn't know how to play football and attacking line with 2 weird wingers and without a CF
6. an opponent parking 2 buses
7. Dembele and Coutinho crossing all the time, and our only aerial threat is 170cm short Messi who drops deep to a midfield position all the time

Our team is just balanced so "nicely" on so many levels.
Not because of Ernie but because of years of zero transfer strategy and because of tons transfers to please the fans (Arda, Coutinho, Dembele) and tons of mostly horrible 22-years old bought by Robert, mixed with our confussion whether to move on to a new style of play of follow Pep's ideas for the next 20 years.
Now add Ernie into all of this mess, and voila, you have a yesterday's match.

OR, you can simplify it and blame, let's say Rakitic and EV for everything.
If it makes you happy... Even though it doesn't have too much with reality.

Our team would need a few years of changes, a proper coach, tons of new players, tons of new clear ideas and sticking to it for 3-4 years.
That is the only way to solve this mess.

Alena and Setien won't magically solve this.

Get help. You need for the fantasy land you live in.

I merely criticized one aspect of Rakitic's shortcomings and you've gone and argued, against the air, a multitude of other shit.

Don't reply to me because I won't read anything else of your incoherent babble.