Exactly. Also Rabiot has proven himself in europe top 5 league, in a big club, in chl for several seasons. I
Ivan Rakitić
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Exactly. Also Rabiot has proven himself in europe top 5 league, in a big club, in chl for several seasons. I
Fanboys tend to simplify football to such ridiculous levels cos they are incapable of understanding its full context. Man if only football was played in transfermarket and not on the pitch, Cesc would have been a Barca legend.
Why?
Its not just about crunsh times but about players who can play consistently good. Alena hasnt proven that, all tho he looks like a great talent.
Cule4life
The Culest
To play consistently good he has to play consistently first.
Yes, and he will gradually play more.
Cule4life
The Culest
People been saying that about young players since Valverde came here.
Arthur at age 22 has gotten plenty of playing time, enough for sure.
Munir was shit.
Semedo has seen his fair time of playing time, and isnt suited without a RW.
Malcom playing that litlle is a bit of a mystery but primarily he is left out because he just doesnt fit the team with messi playing this weird hybrid role.
Alena has gotten playing time in both small and big matches. People on this board were all over Sarri, but a class defender like AC doesnt get playing time at all in PL or Odoi also got limited time. We talk about big clubs - and we try to win every competion, its obvious right that the older players are favored.
Puig is 19 - there is no need to give him playing time.
Our problem is our team structure, which has been shit for a while, and transfers of Coutinhio and Malcom didnt really help. Messis hybrid role doesnt make it less difficult.
Arizona Scott
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Your so funny. Yes Rakitic sucks Bob sucks Suarez sucks Coutinho suck Arthur is Arthur reincarnation Alena is Iniesta reincarnation and Malcom is Eto reincarnation.
Yes I simply things to say Bisi, Rakitic, Arthur, Vidal and Countinho all have their place and strengths and weaknesses. yeep me the simpleton.
By the way you are spectacular about leaving out context, even with I qualify my own statements and anticipate the counter arguments you prentend I didn't. I guess you like your football and followers with tweet level of attention span and brain usage.
Arizona Scott
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Yeah young players never get their chance and rot at Barca!!! Signed Neymar (yes I know prior to EV), Marc-Andre (ditto), Ousmane, Samuel, Arthur & Clement.
Arizona Scott
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I agree. I think he has shown enough to get the occasional league start though, particularly with our semi comfortable lead in the table. He is progressing well and looks like he has a future. He just sure as sh*t isn't better than Rakitic, Vidal, Arthur or Coutinho right now, no shame in that, nor does he have their experience in the most pressured of moments (nor does Arthur--but what time he has got in big matches this year he has flourished at level way above Alena and earned full confidence--no doubt Arthur is way more impactful in training-which he got a chance to perform for those moments in the 1st place).
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Alik
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Neymar didn't coincide with Valverde.
MATS was the starting keeper before Valverde.
Umtiti was the starting CB before Valverde.
Lenglet got chances after Umtiti's injury.
Dembele was linked to being sold at the start of the season.
Arizona Scott
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I pointed out they were prior to EV but does fit the larger whinning that Barca from LE to EV doesn't give their young players real chances (poor La Masia kids) and young talents rot here.
Under EV does Dembele play over older options? Does Lenglet play over veteran options? Does Arthur play over veteran options? YES, YES & YES. Why? Because those guys no doubt outplayed their veteran counterparts in training and were positive forces on the pitch during the matches us fans see.
FCBfan22
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1st yes: Because he is clearly 2nd best attacking player we have. Took him about 6 months to realise that. Still subs him every game after 60th minute.
2nd yes: What vetaran options? Glassmaelen?
And Umtiti was injured for 4 months now. Let's see what he does when Umtiti is 100%.3rd yes: The only true yes out of those 3. Yet, he still mainly plays him on the left (another one that's better on the right) and is used as the most attacking option, despite being deep playing CM most of his career.
God Serena
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1st yes: Because he is clearly 2nd best attacking player we have. Took him about 6 months to realise that. Still subs him every game after 60th minute.
2nd yes: What vetaran options? Glassmaelen?
3rd yes: The only true yes out of those 3. Yet, he still mainly plays him on the left (another one that's better on the right) and is used as the most attacking option, despite being deep playing CM most of his career.
Don't forgot that Valverde started the season off by benching Arthur similarly to how he's benching Malcom, while the detractors crowed about how Arthur wasn't good enough for our midfield.. until he got to actually play and proved he should not just be playing, but starting.
FCBfan22
Senior Member
True. And then he came, he saw and concured Tottenham's midfield.
Arizona Scott
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1st yes: Because he is clearly 2nd best attacking player we have. Took him about 6 months to realise that. Still subs him every game after 60th minute.
2nd yes: What vetaran options? Glassmaelen?
3rd yes: The only true yes out of those 3. Yet, he still mainly plays him on the left (another one that's better on the right) and is used as the most attacking option, despite being deep playing CM most of his career.
So my "WHY" these 3 very young, new to the team, players play is correct. To simplify, it is because they are "freaken good" and better than the veteran alternatives on the squad. Lenglet will likely keep the starters job if he performs better on the pitch and in training than Umtiti does, if it is the other way around Umtiti gets the 1st team job back. So much unfairness there.
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