Ivan Rakitić
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CatalinR10
Senior Member
In that case there's no way fdj will be a starter , even if he plays miles better.
Gnidrologist
Senior Member
Now THAT is a reason to start hating him if true. Don't be selfish cunt and fuck off. Even Xavi and Inesta, who were galaxy apart from him even at their old age knew that they have to leave.
Givenchy
Senior Member
where did you hear that?
i won't even be surprised if we give him a new contract (albeit less than his demands) as a favor to EV.. i don't think i can watch another season of this shit, especially if De Jong or Arthur are benched so Raki-Busi can play
Flavius
Member
Well they dominated the most part of the game, by dominating I mean they had a lot of possession in our half.
Quite a few places going with this story.
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“Ivan Rakitic has put to bed talk of him leaving Barcelona this summer and declared he “likes living in Spain”.
It appears the lure of Manchester has bypassed the Croatia midfielder after the 30-year-old claimed Barcelona are “perfect” for him and he is “happy” at the La Liga champions.
Rakitic is also understood to be on the radar of Inter Milan and only this week Marca claimed that United were planning a €75million summer swoop to sign him.
“I like living in Spain,” Rakitic said via DAZN. “Unfortunately, I can’t ask for another passport because I already have two, otherwise I’d also ask for a Spanish one because I’m fine here and I’m happy.
“My family are happy here too and my daughters are doing well in Barcelona because we’re close to Seville. Therefore, staying here is perfect for me.”
Joan
Well-known member
Poor Rakitić, all those who didn't like him will now start hating him.
Gnidrologist
Senior Member
Not liking someone's job output is completely different to not liking someone, because he's a deuchebag. He still has a very good legacy as a Barca player. Would be sad if he'd become a burden that just wont leave.
Leo_Messi
New member
Could he not have married a Croatian or Swiss girl instead of a Spanish one? Now he won't leave the country.
Rakitic has been a decent servant for the club in his 5 years here (nothing extraordinary if you ask me) but it is time to move him on.
Too many of our leading/most important/most influential players are above 30 or approaching that age. With de Jong's signing, Arthur's recent arrival, Aleñá's breakthrough (or at least signs of this), a highly talented Puig waiting in the background, possibly a move for Rabiot or preferably Lo Celso and Busquets not going anywhere this summer, it is the perfect opportunity to part ways with him whiles still having the opportunity to cash in on him or at least receive a decent transfer fee for him.
There should not be any doubt from the board whether to sell him or not. Whatsoever. Even less so when he is demanding a contract extension and wage increase. For what exactly? For being worse than he was in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 and arguably last season?
We should not turn into what AC Milan turned into due to what was back then an utterly spineless and incompetent board lead by Berlusca and Zio Fester.
Rakitic has been a decent servant for the club in his 5 years here (nothing extraordinary if you ask me) but it is time to move him on.
Too many of our leading/most important/most influential players are above 30 or approaching that age. With de Jong's signing, Arthur's recent arrival, Aleñá's breakthrough (or at least signs of this), a highly talented Puig waiting in the background, possibly a move for Rabiot or preferably Lo Celso and Busquets not going anywhere this summer, it is the perfect opportunity to part ways with him whiles still having the opportunity to cash in on him or at least receive a decent transfer fee for him.
There should not be any doubt from the board whether to sell him or not. Whatsoever. Even less so when he is demanding a contract extension and wage increase. For what exactly? For being worse than he was in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 and arguably last season?
We should not turn into what AC Milan turned into due to what was back then an utterly spineless and incompetent board lead by Berlusca and Zio Fester.
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Givenchy
Senior Member
we just aren't ruthless enough. i mean, theres a fine line and Madrid are nasty bastards when it comes to getting rid of club legends/seniors past their prime but it works for them. we also need to be smarter with our contracts. Raki has literally no reason to leave Barca.. great city where hes settled, high wages, amazing club, under EV (whos staying) hes 1 of the first names on the team sheet etc we can't force him to leave and its looking like the only option is to let his contract run down or give him a new one
Arizona Scott
New member
Yep, so we are shot, Atletico is shit and Madrid is shit. Since these are by far the best La Liga has to offer, what league plays football that isn't shit?
...Take off your nostalgia glasses ..
Thirdly- Pepistas really?Is that your go to juvenile insult
Fourthly- Your holy grail stats. You have gone so far down the rabbit hole of stats that you have stopped trusting your own eyes and stopped watching matches. Thankfully the rest of us haven't.
If only those stupid football pundits would get the hint and stop analyzing match plays on those big screens with expensive freeze frame technology and instead just pull up whoscored pages on those screens (wouldn't that be a sight
While we're at it, since football is all about the stats and attractive football doesn't matter, why do TV channels spend billions to acquire match rights and why do people pay money to watch them. If only they could see the forest for the trees and just check whoscored (which smarties like you started doing long ago)
Lastly- Yes different people can perceive games differently due to different reasons (fanboying like Arizona scott, stats whoring like your majesty, lack of football understanding and yes sometime even hating). But stats (especially without context) is never a be all neutral judgment pillar of football. And neutral fans might have their own agendas which makes them biased (like Malmierda glorifying trolls like Wolfe)
Remember people are different and hence opinions will be different.
Some of these are quite rich nuggets. It is like you can see in others what you can't see in spades in your own mirror.
And by the way if I don't keep going don't assume you have won any argument, maybe it is just being seen as hopelessly circular and it is clear some don't want to learn, nor even partake in civil or rational dialogue. Maybe that's who you live your life, or at least your internet life, even with fans supposedly pulling for the same club, and the players who sweat and bleed in the shirt so that our team can hold oodles of trophies, as it continues to do, over and over.
One final take home, all modern scouting (and decision making within the team by the managers--including playing time and match-ups) across professional sports use advanced metrics. But I get it, all opinions will be different, everything is opinion and there are no facts or evidence. Let's just hope you don't go to a doctor or financial adviser who uses those principles, who just goes by his gut and what he sees right in front of him. Maybe if you stop using "fanboy" references (where you try to stereotype anyone who disagrees with you) some of us won't be as vehement in the exposure of many of your absurd statements and colored views, or use the dreaded "haters will be haters" tag. You can't possible be offended by your own tactics, no, yes you do. Gets back to the first point above.
Cule4life
The Culest
Both Atletico and Madrid are cup oriented teams and are better than Barca in knockout tournaments. And problems with Valgreen's Barca is- 1) Shit football bailed out by Messi domestically 2) That shit football being exposed in champions league sooner or later.
Don't worry i don't underestimate your fanboyism if you don't reply. I know you are biding your time and licking your wounds
You aren't willing to listen to criticism of even one aspect of Raki's play and then have the gall to claim that you aren't a fanboy and that we "Raki haters" don't want to learn?
You go on this incomprehensible rant and then say the Raki haters don't partake in civil or rational dialogue? Did they cut out the irony gene from your body?
Yeah poor Raki getting paid millions and banging a hot waitress shouldn't be criticized at all because he turns up to do his job. People working multiple jobs and getting yelled at by their bosses would like to have a word with you.
Modern scouts spend a lot of money to go to the matches of their prospects and watch them. The metrics are then used as a additional context into their potential. They don't just open whoscored pages and then decide to buy players.
Comparing doctors and financial advisers to football, stats?
I can imagine you sitting in front of keyboard completely losing it at this point of your post. Regarding "fanboy" references- I'll call spade a spade. If you don't want to be called a fanboy, stop stereotyping anyone criticizing Raki as a hater/spoilt fan.
Offended by my own tactics? Bitch please. The only offended one is here is you throwing tantrums like a drama queen, just cause somebody said bad words to their special one.
Arizona Scott
New member
Is alright Cule, you could be a TROLL and just say stuff for affect, but I really don't think so, I think you are genuine NEFUK.
I'll give you a hint child so you can follow, the acronym uses "Keyboard", "Narcissistic", "Using", "Fan" & "Entitled" in it.
I can't speak to all, but I don't often go into dismissive and categorical responses (haters will hate, just the typical NEFUK response) unless the fanboyisms or categorically dismissive comments come first.
The irony is I am in favor of selling Rakitic and don't think he is one of our 6 most critical players even this year--yet somehow you think I am the one unhinged and melodrammatic in my posts. I just call out an obviously shit take or extreme biased perspective for what it is, backed with observations AND data, and usually directed about the comment, and not the poster. Now when posters have a habit of making it personal because that is all they got left, and yes the fit the pattern of a whiny spoiled bitch who never played a high level sport in their life, some of them are just NEFUKS.
I'll give you a hint child so you can follow, the acronym uses "Keyboard", "Narcissistic", "Using", "Fan" & "Entitled" in it.
I can't speak to all, but I don't often go into dismissive and categorical responses (haters will hate, just the typical NEFUK response) unless the fanboyisms or categorically dismissive comments come first.
The irony is I am in favor of selling Rakitic and don't think he is one of our 6 most critical players even this year--yet somehow you think I am the one unhinged and melodrammatic in my posts. I just call out an obviously shit take or extreme biased perspective for what it is, backed with observations AND data, and usually directed about the comment, and not the poster. Now when posters have a habit of making it personal because that is all they got left, and yes the fit the pattern of a whiny spoiled bitch who never played a high level sport in their life, some of them are just NEFUKS.
Arizona Scott
New member
I see you didn't actually say there is a league where shit football isn't played. But Real, Atletico and Bara all play shit football. Just say your peace, all football since Enriques 1st Barca team is shit, or maybe all football since Barca's Pep?
Funny I remember the grandest celebration Atletico and their fans ever had was winning the league when they drew us end of season. Much bigger than making the CL finals twice, much bigger than Europa, bigger than had they won the CL.
Even Mourinho said clearly today, and this is someone with relatively better CL success than league success compared to his managing peers (e.g., Sir Alex, Pep). The league results shows who the best squads, that is the number one goal every season because it shows who the very best are, and you must earn it every step. The CL is a combination of being ONE OF THE BEST squads, getting hot after march, and getting a few 50/50 breaks go your way (whether it is a missed/made penalty, bad ref call, or fluke play). The twitter attention span part time football fan thinks all about European footy is about is the CL.
JerseyAddict
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Raki the EMPEROR laughs in the Face of all shitters.
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