Ivan Rakitić

JohnN

Senior Member
How can he get injured? He is slow as a turtle, doesnt overexert his muscles in anyway

That's unfair and I don't like rakitic. He is trying but has physical limitations. That doesn't mean he doesn't put strain on his muscles. He just has good durability and is smart enough to avoid injury. For all his bads, give the guy a break or you are inviting people to call you out and go all the way to the opposite side to bash Arthur and FDJ for every little detail.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
Arthur is not fit for 90min and Vidal had discomfort and only trained 1 day. Look at the bigger picture.

You are aware we are saying: "Arthur is not fit for 90 minutes" for two weeks now? Meanwhile in that time he is playing 15 to 20 minutes max. He'll never be fit unless he starts playing from the start. Problem is I don't think Setien rates him highly at all.
 

clemente

New member
Whatever this man is he doesn't get injured.
Vidal was out and Arthur can't play the full 90 so that's why he got the spot. It's pretty obvious to everyone, so why would you try to spin the facts?
On the Arthur front, he was very good yesterday, which shows he just needed time to get match rhythm, as most people easily realised before crussifying him.

Can't play 90 but plays 90 every game for Brazil? Is it the altitude that allows him to play more?
 

gasgas

Senior Member
That's unfair and I don't like rakitic. He is trying but has physical limitations. That doesn't mean he doesn't put strain on his muscles. He just has good durability and is smart enough to avoid injury. For all his bads, give the guy a break or you are inviting people to call you out and go all the way to the opposite side to bash Arthur and FDJ for every little detail.

He is crap. Admit it
 

behindbrowneyes

Well-known member
You are aware we are saying: "Arthur is not fit for 90 minutes" for two weeks now? Meanwhile in that time he is playing 15 to 20 minutes max. He'll never be fit unless he starts playing from the start. Problem is I don't think Setien rates him highly at all.

Yes, I know. He was heavily breathing after 15min. Looks he had way too much fun and burgers while he was injured.
Arthur showed again what a great kicker he is yesterday. The boy should finally focus on football and then he will have a great career here. It's up to him. Just flashing your class every 4-5 game is not enough.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
You are aware we are saying: "Arthur is not fit for 90 minutes" for two weeks now? Meanwhile in that time he is playing 15 to 20 minutes max. He'll never be fit unless he starts playing from the start. Problem is I don't think Setien rates him highly at all.

Yeah.
We read: Arthur is not fit.

A guy is 23 years old, started to train normally on January 16th and played a first match on January 19th.

He played a match 20 days ago, returned to full training 23 days ago and he still can't play for more than 20 minutes.

Players who broke knee ligaments and who were 6-9 Months injured are recovering faster than a current Arthur.
 
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BBZ8800

Senior Member
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An honest question: do you think that a kid who made this video made a similar analysis of Arthur's deadly mistake around our box in the last match or a video of Frenkie's Andre Gomes-esque performances lately.

I know the answer.
A hint: of course that he didn't.

Raki is the new EV.
Guilty for everything.

Can't wait until we get rid of him and EV and to see our team flying again.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
An honest question: do you think that a kid who made this video made a similar analysis of Arthur's deadly mistake around our box in the last match or a video of Frenkie's Andre Gomes-esque performances lately.

I know the answer.
A hint: of course that he didn't.

Raki is the new EV.
Guilty for everything.

Can't wait until we get rid of him and EV and to see our team flying again.

Honest advice, don't get into discussion you are not good at. Don't compare Arthur and De Jong with Rakitic in this area of the game because you are making a fool of yourself. Stick to your tackles and interceptions.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
An honest question: do you think that a kid who made this video made a similar analysis of Arthur's deadly mistake around our box in the last match or a video of Frenkie's Andre Gomes-esque performances lately.

I know the answer.
A hint: of course that he didn't.

Raki is the new EV.
Guilty for everything.

Can't wait until we get rid of him and EV and to see our team flying again.

Do you believe Rakitic is still a Barca level player? Or was last season?
 

Nello

Member
Such a shame that some posters basically take every chance to turn posts about Arthur, Frenkie, Rakitic or Setién into a discussion Rakitic vs x midfielder or EV vs Setién.

You can no longer post a video showing what is obvious to the naked eye, Rakitic is not good enough to substain pressure and help us build from the back vs intense, high pressing teams, without BBZ immidiately bringing up how unfit Arthur is at the moment and how Raki is the new EV. Like anyone ever said that Arthur is fit as fuck atm and Rakitic is guilty for everything. XxKonan literally just pointed out that Rakitic doesn't do well under pressure, which is true and nothing else.

It's exhausting that we can't talk about what improvements we've made lately, or how we can get our midfield to work without people bringing up how many wins EV got in his first couple of games, or how many interceptions Rakitic has. EV is no longer at the club, and you can't fucking compare with his first games, or even his first games this season, with the games we are playing now. Lots of things have happened since then, and we should try to discuss our current coach and team instead.

You can point out that Puig made a good throughball or nice dribble, and still think he is too weak and should put on muscle. Just like you can think that Arthur has more of a future here at Barca than Raki, but still realize he needs to step up and get his fitness and focus sorted. And many posters do just that from what I see. I rarely see the EV/Rakitic cult reply however when someone says that Setíen still has a long way to go, even though our build up has improved, or that Arthur made a nice pass to Messi, even though he still needs to do better.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Such a shame that some posters basically take every chance to turn posts about Arthur, Frenkie, Rakitic or Setién into a discussion Rakitic vs x midfielder or EV vs Setién.

You can no longer post a video showing what is obvious to the naked eye, Rakitic is not good enough to substain pressure and help us build from the back vs intense, high pressing teams, without BBZ immidiately bringing up how unfit Arthur is at the moment and how Raki is the new EV. Like anyone ever said that Arthur is fit as fuck atm and Rakitic is guilty for everything. XxKonan literally just pointed out that Rakitic doesn't do well under pressure, which is true and nothing else.

It's exhausting that we can't talk about what improvements we've made lately, or how we can get our midfield to work without people bringing up how many wins EV got in his first couple of games, or how many interceptions Rakitic has. EV is no longer at the club, and you can't fucking compare with his first games, or even his first games this season, with the games we are playing now. Lots of things have happened since then, and we should try to discuss our current coach and team instead.

You can point out that Puig made a good throughball or nice dribble, and still think he is too weak and should put on muscle. Just like you can think that Arthur has more of a future here at Barca than Raki, but still realize he needs to step up and get his fitness and focus sorted. And many posters do just that from what I see. I rarely see the EV/Rakitic cult reply however when someone says that Setíen still has a long way to go, even though our build up has improved, or that Arthur made a nice pass to Messi, even though he still needs to do better.

It's also our fault and our weakness that we can't seem to find the proper mindset to treat these trash posts with the indifference they deserve to be treated. This only adds to the problem and makes the atmosphere even more toxic.

So I propose we try to look at these posts with more indifference in the future and focus on the more important aspects of this team. I for one am trying with moderate success to not be as triggered about users whose whole point around here is to be contrarian and say dumb, ignorant stuff to piss off people. Sometimes it's really hard to refrain from answering these posts and add more fuel to the fire.
 
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