They have Mumbai City and all the other City franchise clubs to tap up those markets.
Jack Grealish
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They have Mumbai City and all the other City franchise clubs to tap up those markets.
AnfieldEd
I am Leg End
Ah Bless
You have six who were record signings at the time you bought them. I love your 'we don't buy 1 at 80m, we buy 2 at 40m to have better depth' line.
Not quite though. More like, we don't buy one at 80m, we buy 6 at 50m instead. And it again works on the false assumption that transfer fees are the only cost. No agent or signing fees, or wages. And also that all these associated costs in recruiting and playing for the club are all on the City books. Mancini would say otherwise.
City have an advantage.
if you are spending most of your revenue on wages, you cannot also spend most of your revenue on transfer fees. Because whatever you win never cover it. And invariable, only 1 of teams blowing the GDP of a small country on transfer fees will actually win. And no matter what happens, City can just keep spending because the losses are written off as the cost to launder the image of their despot owner.
Eventually though, the other clubs get into financial trouble because what is spent has to be covered by revenue.
This is why the big clubs want the ESL. They know without much more control over their revenue and the ability to make a lot more money, eventually they just need to give up the arms race to PSG & City and this is why giving Qatar (and eventually Abu Dhabi, it will happen) big seats at UEFA and allowing Putin and Qatar to pump money into FIFA and UEFA in exchange for control of the world's biggest sport is a problem.
Is anything then achieved really on sporting merit? really?
Ah Bless
You have six who were record signings at the time you bought them. I love your 'we don't buy 1 at 80m, we buy 2 at 40m to have better depth' line.
Not quite though. More like, we don't buy one at 80m, we buy 6 at 50m instead. And it again works on the false assumption that transfer fees are the only cost. No agent or signing fees, or wages. And also that all these associated costs in recruiting and playing for the club are all on the City books. Mancini would say otherwise.
City have an advantage.
if you are spending most of your revenue on wages, you cannot also spend most of your revenue on transfer fees. Because whatever you win never cover it. And invariable, only 1 of teams blowing the GDP of a small country on transfer fees will actually win. And no matter what happens, City can just keep spending because the losses are written off as the cost to launder the image of their despot owner.
Eventually though, the other clubs get into financial trouble because what is spent has to be covered by revenue.
This is why the big clubs want the ESL. They know without much more control over their revenue and the ability to make a lot more money, eventually they just need to give up the arms race to PSG & City and this is why giving Qatar (and eventually Abu Dhabi, it will happen) big seats at UEFA and allowing Putin and Qatar to pump money into FIFA and UEFA in exchange for control of the world's biggest sport is a problem.
Is anything then achieved really on sporting merit? really?
I don't quite see where Putin is controlling world biggest sport. Is it because Russia got to host one WC ? What about the biggest warmonger and violator of human rights in the world, the US ? They are going to host it too and no one is angry about it, lmao...
If anything, Putin and Russia wish they could be in US position and without US and France and UK, Qatar (their minion and pawn) would do nothing.
serghei
Senior Member
The real Messi is an oldie who needs the whole team built around him.
Not signing 34-year-old Messi on astronomical wages is nothing but sound judgment.
Mateka
New member
Of course City have an advantage with a billionaire owner. But so do 16 other clubs in the EPL who have billionaire owners. So do the teams in Europe , yes PSG but also Juventus, Leipzig, Inter Milan, even Hoffenheim. Clubs are not owned by a few millionaires today, many are billionaires. One of those billionaires owns City.
The advantage that Barca and RM have had for years over LL, does not help them compared with what is happening elsewhere.
If a team want to buy one RB, or 2 or 3 that is up to them. Always has been, always will be. Numerous players being added to a club took place in the EPL before any sheikh came along. Chelsea 34 players in 4 years.
The clubs who once had a big advantage, no longer have it, the world has changed.
PSG inflated prices by ridiculous high purchases. Sadly Barca and RM followed. City highest purchase no 25 in the list, so do not blame City.
Again, if you had the Sheikh backing your club , you would change the tune.
Grealish may never sign for City, Villa may not receive a 100m from anybody. Why? They have at least one billionaire backing them. Possibly two.
Reddit. Sun.
The advantage that Barca and RM have had for years over LL, does not help them compared with what is happening elsewhere.
If a team want to buy one RB, or 2 or 3 that is up to them. Always has been, always will be. Numerous players being added to a club took place in the EPL before any sheikh came along. Chelsea 34 players in 4 years.
The clubs who once had a big advantage, no longer have it, the world has changed.
PSG inflated prices by ridiculous high purchases. Sadly Barca and RM followed. City highest purchase no 25 in the list, so do not blame City.
Again, if you had the Sheikh backing your club , you would change the tune.
Grealish may never sign for City, Villa may not receive a 100m from anybody. Why? They have at least one billionaire backing them. Possibly two.
Reddit. Sun.
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Mateka
New member
Ah Bless
You have six who were record signings at the time you bought them. I love your 'we don't buy 1 at 80m, we buy 2 at 40m to have better depth' line.
Not quite though. More like, we don't buy one at 80m, we buy 6 at 50m instead. And it again works on the false assumption that transfer fees are the only cost. No agent or signing fees, or wages. And also that all these associated costs in recruiting and playing for the club are all on the City books. Mancini would say otherwise.
City have an advantage.
if you are spending most of your revenue on wages, you cannot also spend most of your revenue on transfer fees. Because whatever you win never cover it. And invariable, only 1 of teams blowing the GDP of a small country on transfer fees will actually win. And no matter what happens, City can just keep spending because the losses are written off as the cost to launder the image of their despot owner.
Eventually though, the other clubs get into financial trouble because what is spent has to be covered by revenue.
This is why the big clubs want the ESL. They know without much more control over their revenue and the ability to make a lot more money, eventually they just need to give up the arms race to PSG & City and this is why giving Qatar (and eventually Abu Dhabi, it will happen) big seats at UEFA and allowing Putin and Qatar to pump money into FIFA and UEFA in exchange for control of the world's biggest sport is a problem.
Is anything then achieved really on sporting merit? really?
City have broken the British transfer fee twice since records began. Steve Daley from Wolves in 1979 for 1.45m and Robinho in 2008 from RM for 32.5 m. Please inform the other four.
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Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
I wouldn't say the world has changed just yet. Without the FFP yes clubs like ours and Real Madrid might be left in dust by the likes of PSG and City, but I suspect something akin to the FFP will be in place sooner or later, after COVID. FIFA, UEFA and most clubs don't want to see the market and competition being disrupted to the point that you create mammoths and monopolies in the sport.
Mateka
New member
I agree with you. But RM and Barca not left behind by City and PSG but every billionaire owned club, of which there must be 20 plus in Europe alone. FFP badly needs a re write. ESL was set up as a cartel with no promotion or relegation, that being a monopoly in itself.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
As long as we can still achieve the revenues we achieved (Barca and Real were the top 2) we will not be left behind. We will though, if there is no more FFP and clubs like City and PSG and Chelsea (I don't think the other ones are on par with these three) can spend whatever they want to spend.
Too early to tell.
Mateka
New member
City PSG and Chelsea are three who have splashed the cash. But the potential of others, equals:
10. Robert Kraft (New England Revolution)
Net worth: $6.9 billion
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9. Zhang Jindong (Inter Milan)
Net worth: $8.1 billion
8. Nasser Al-Khelaifi (PSG)
Net worth: $8 billion
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7. Stan Kroenke (Arsenal, Colorado Rapids)
Net worth: $8.3 billion
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6. Philip Anschutz (LA Galaxy)
Net worth: $10.1 billion
.
5. Roman Abramovic (Chelsea)
Net worth: $12.5 billion
.
4. Dietmar Hopp (Hoffenheim)
Net worth: $18.5 billion
.
3. Andre Agnelli & family (Juventus)
Net worth: $19.1 billion
.
2. Dietrich Mateschitz (Red Bull Salzburg, RB Leipzig, NY Red Bulls)
Net worth: $26.9 billion
1. Sheikh Mansour (Manchester City, Melbourne City, New York City)
Net Worth: $30 Billion
Technosport April 2021.
I have included American.
The difficulty on limiting finance in FFP is when one or several owners go to the Civil Courts. New owners, wealthy owners or profligate chairmen have always splashed the cash.
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Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Having a lot of money/a huge net worth doesn't automatically mean they will invest a lot of money in those clubs. It depends primarily on the objectives of the owner, most of them bought those clubs as a side project/mean to make more money, not their primary focus. Also, the rules as well as the culture of where these people are operating from also matter. For example, in the case of Hoffenheim, even though they are not subject to 50+1, however given the enormous negative publicity and controversy that Hopp generates, I doubt he will be willing to start lavishly buying.
Few challenged the merits of the FFP when it was first introduced, I don't think many will challenge the next verse of it.
Sterlingfan2000
Active member
Changed the game. A absolute gem of a footballer
I?ve been raving about him for years.. many in here just laugh at England players though
This guy would be amazing to the left of Kun with FDJ , Pedri and Busqs in midfield
Sadly it appears that ManCity have agreed a deal for ?80 million already
fergus90
Senior Member
They haven't agreed a deal, that my friend is fake news.
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