Joan Laporta

[iniestaGOAT]

Comparing us to Milan when you should be comparing us to Manchester United. They stayed away from UCL for years yet they were able to attract players.

We wont ever be out of top 4. Stop it.

 

[delancey]

Liverpool was a Europa League side who made CL football like 2 times in 10 years before they built this side. We should stop moaning. You don't have to chase the biggest superstars who are wanted by the biggest, richest teams to form an elite side. Those superstars will of course choose a club that is among the top 4-5, or a club that can make them filty rich.

It requires a plan, a top manager, good scouting, and good management. Good players who can play great in such a stable and professional environment are everywhere.

Agreed! Our situation can improve quickly if the right decisions are made by leadership.

 

[serghei]

Comparing us to Milan when you should be comparing us to Manchester United. They stayed away from UCL for years yet they were able to attract players.

We wont ever be out of top 4. Stop it.

Let's hope we hire a better manager though, they are where they are because they consistently dropped the ball with the manager appointment, while every single one of their rivals got an elite manager locked in.

 

[Messigician]

Javier Tebas: ?Maybe if Laporta hadn?t let Messi's contract expire and signed Depay, Ag?ero? Messi could have continued.?

Laporta on official fraud watch

 

[Messigician]

🎙️| Tebas (La Liga President): ?In July, we had a deal with Laporta then I received a call from him telling me: ?can we accelerate it? Messi's renewal cannot wait and we need the capital injection? But in the end, the FCB president backed down. I am convinced that Florentino is behind Laporta?s rejection of CVC.?

 

[SmilerBam]

No. Noone gives a fuck about us anymore. We are a meme both on and off the field. This isn't 2011, it's 2021. We have no money and not much of a reputation left. Players are more interested in money nowadays. Milan have a great history but 9/10 players would choose Psg or City over them.

Than go and support those '' big teams''. We last won a major trophy 2 years ago. And we will bounce back eventually, much sooner if we appoint a good coach with a definite plan, not average Joe's like Cowman. Of course, we really need to find some gems in the market too, but it ca be doable with a healthy plan in mind.

 

[BBZ8800]

Liverpool was a Europa League side who made CL football like 2 times in 10 years before they built this side. We should stop moaning. You don't have to chase the biggest superstars who are wanted by the biggest, richest teams to form an elite side. Those superstars will of course choose a club that is among the top 4-5, or a club that can make them filty rich.

It requires a plan, a top manager, good scouting, and good management. Good players who can play great in such a stable and professional environment are everywhere.

But Liverpool has spent 30 years trying to get out of the mud before that.
They made million of bad decisions, bad transfers and bad coaches.

Barcelona has always been quite a chaotic and impulsive club lead by emotions, interests and independency politics.
Helped by insane spending power.
Today, on top of that, we have no money and (imo) our way of football is heavily outdated.
Yet we will spend 10-20 years torn between chasing Pep's ghosts of 2011 and trying to move forward.

So, what kind of a plan can we have when we are stuck with Barca DNA and Busi/Pedri type of players?

So, we can't hire Klopp or similar because they would move away from our football.
And our proud socios and fans would never allow that.
So, the more likely scenario is 10+ years of desperation and going in circles with EV/Setien/Martinez type of managers or hoping that some Barca DNA manager like Xavi will be a hit.

So, imo, the only two options are: getting a Barca DNA savior-coach or losing for 10-15 years, trying to go back to our roots million times and then finally saying: fuck it, it's not working anymore, let's finally move to a modern football ideas.

But that won't happen before 2030-2035.

So, no, we won't be the new Liverpool because neither our fans nor the board have the idea where to go.
If you make a poll, 90% of our fans will say that we need to go back to our roots (and that means copying Pep's Barca) and how that type of football is still working perfectly.

Regardless of a fact that Spain can't win shit with it and how Pep needs billions to make it work in a league but still can't win a CL.

If I'll get angry replies to this post, that is just a proof how we are at least 10-15 years away from a new era.

So shoot, feel free, tell me how our football and core La Masia principles still work.

 

[Messigician]

But Liverpool has spent 30 years trying to get out of the mud before that.
They made million of bad decisions, bad transfers and bad coaches.

Barcelona has always been quite a chaotic and impulsive club lead by emotions, interests and independency politics.
Helped by insane spending power.
Today, on top of that, we have no money and (imo) our way of football is heavily outdated.
Yet we will spend 10-20 years torn between chasing Pep's ghosts of 2011 and trying to move forward.

So, what kind of a plan can we have when we are stuck with Barca DNA and Busi/Pedri type of players?

So, we can't hire Klopp or similar because they would move away from our football.
And our proud socios and fans would never allow that.
So, the more likely scenario is 10+ years of desperation and going in circles with EV/Setien/Martinez type of managers or hoping that some Barca DNA manager like Xavi will be a hit.

So, imo, the only two options are: getting a Barca DNA savior-coach or losing for 10-15 years, trying to go back to our roots million times and then finally saying: fuck it, it's not working anymore, let's finally move to a modern football ideas.

But that won't happen before 2030-2035.

So, no, we won't be the new Liverpool because neither our fans nor the board have the idea where to go.
If you make a poll, 90% of our fans will say that we need to go back to our roots (and that means copying Pep's Barca) and how that type of football is still working perfectly.

Regardless of a fact that Spain can't win shit with it and how Pep needs billions to make it work in a league but still can't win a CL.

If I'll get angry replies to this post, that is just a proof how we are at least 10-15 years away from a new era.

So shoot, feel free, tell me how our football and core La Masia principles still work.

Stop grouping Valverde with these bums

Won't tell u again, haven't liked your tone since your " EV isn't that great" post which I didn't respond to at the time but now I have

 

[KingLeo10]

Stop grouping Valverde with these bums

Won't tell u again, haven't liked your tone since your " EV isn't that great" post which I didn't respond to at the time but now I have

Calma Lucifer Jr., before BBZ sends you to sweep the corridors of hell

 

[jairzinho]

But Liverpool has spent 30 years trying to get out of the mud before that.
They made million of bad decisions, bad transfers and bad coaches.

Barcelona has always been quite a chaotic and impulsive club lead by emotions, interests and independency politics.
Helped by insane spending power.
Today, on top of that, we have no money and (imo) our way of football is heavily outdated.
Yet we will spend 10-20 years torn between chasing Pep's ghosts of 2011 and trying to move forward.

So, what kind of a plan can we have when we are stuck with Barca DNA and Busi/Pedri type of players?

So, we can't hire Klopp or similar because they would move away from our football.
And our proud socios and fans would never allow that.
So, the more likely scenario is 10+ years of desperation and going in circles with EV/Setien/Martinez type of managers or hoping that some Barca DNA manager like Xavi will be a hit.

So, imo, the only two options are: getting a Barca DNA savior-coach or losing for 10-15 years, trying to go back to our roots million times and then finally saying: fuck it, it's not working anymore, let's finally move to a modern football ideas.

But that won't happen before 2030-2035.

So, no, we won't be the new Liverpool because neither our fans nor the board have the idea where to go.
If you make a poll, 90% of our fans will say that we need to go back to our roots (and that means copying Pep's Barca) and how that type of football is still working perfectly.

Regardless of a fact that Spain can't win shit with it and how Pep needs billions to make it work in a league but still can't win a CL.

If I'll get angry replies to this post, that is just a proof how we are at least 10-15 years away from a new era.

So shoot, feel free, tell me how our football and core La Masia principles still work.

Agreed.

 

[Bobo32]

Barcelona could hire Klopp (if they had the money) and then let him try to compete for the players he wants (the same as many other top clubs, with more money) and then try to build a team that could compete with clubs more used to play and build in that way, clubs with more money, higher status now, etc etc.

Or they could stay more true to their identity, save a lot of money, and actually even have a chance of competing, because they at least have some sort of edge then.

 

[JamDav1982]

Same argument that doesnt fit.

Barca have not tried in years to play the way Pep did or does.

Peps best teams have always had hard work, possession based players trying to dominate ball, press from front and when available be best in world on the break also.

Luchos Barca played on the break and gave up technique in midfield with likes of Rakitic in favour of giving freedom to a front three.

Valverdes Barca played more or less 442 a lot of the time with two forwards that barely ran and used likes of Paulinho and Rakitic to try and get legs behind them.

Since EV left...Barca still not got in players that Pep would have set up in a team to dominate ball and press from front.

It is a myth that Barca have been failing due to trying to play like Pep did. They have strayed massively from it and given up the basic ideals of Peps teams for most part with old players that cant run being spine of team.

Barca would be better served getting back towards how Pep plays. Which is nowhere near as one dimensional as likes of BBZ makes out.

Peps City dominate ball, but stilll all work hard, press, put in crosses when needed and take long range efforts when needed, break on opposition when can. They have about as much variety as any team going.

 

[serghei]

But Liverpool has spent 30 years trying to get out of the mud before that.
They made million of bad decisions, bad transfers and bad coaches.

Barcelona has always been quite a chaotic and impulsive club lead by emotions, interests and independency politics.
Helped by insane spending power.
Today, on top of that, we have no money and (imo) our way of football is heavily outdated.
Yet we will spend 10-20 years torn between chasing Pep's ghosts of 2011 and trying to move forward.

So, what kind of a plan can we have when we are stuck with Barca DNA and Busi/Pedri type of players?

So, we can't hire Klopp or similar because they would move away from our football.
And our proud socios and fans would never allow that.
So, the more likely scenario is 10+ years of desperation and going in circles with EV/Setien/Martinez type of managers or hoping that some Barca DNA manager like Xavi will be a hit.

So, imo, the only two options are: getting a Barca DNA savior-coach or losing for 10-15 years, trying to go back to our roots million times and then finally saying: fuck it, it's not working anymore, let's finally move to a modern football ideas.

But that won't happen before 2030-2035.

So, no, we won't be the new Liverpool because neither our fans nor the board have the idea where to go.
If you make a poll, 90% of our fans will say that we need to go back to our roots (and that means copying Pep's Barca) and how that type of football is still working perfectly.

Regardless of a fact that Spain can't win shit with it and how Pep needs billions to make it work in a league but still can't win a CL.

If I'll get angry replies to this post, that is just a proof how we are at least 10-15 years away from a new era.

So shoot, feel free, tell me how our football and core La Masia principles still work.

Too early to tell IMO, your prediction is too grim. Basically what are you saying, we'll win nothing major for 9 years? Doubt it. Also, we have to see what Barca DNA means. It covers a huge area so that nobody knows what the term is anymore. Apparently, Koeman is a Barca DNA coach, so... it means jack shit nowadays.

You yourself substitute Barca DNA only for the things you don't like, leaving aside the rest. You leave aside that it also means speed, pressing, stamina, proper fitness and hard work, motivation, elite coaching etc. Remember how the opposition thought we were doping at the time? Yea, doesn't quite make sense for a supposed physically weak side, does it?

Barca DNA or a more direct, German (if you may) style, is all the same in many areas. You need speed, athleticism, stamina for both. Pressing and speed are major components today in most setups and styles. The difference is that our style is more built on possession and less on counterattacks, and we do indeed not use crosses all that much and prefer to build more attacks through quick passing centrally. But that's how it is, you can't play counterattack if you keep the ball more than the opponent, by definition you'll play more positional, and less on counters.

 

[Messigician]

I think sometimes bbz likes to be contrarian for the sake of it.

When everyone was against Valverde as the world's worst thing he had nothing but praise for him.

Now that the forum has shifted and appreciated Valverde BBZ has started the " EV isn't that great, he is a similar type of coach to Koeman, and Setien"

I don't think he has been the same since the Germany, and Coutinho debacles. I hope he can get back at his best.

 

[malvolio]

FC Barcelona won't end up trophy less for 10 years and comparisons to Liverpool are just plain stupid.

The club/history/city combination is the most desired in Europe. There is enormous potential money wise and image wise.