Joan Laporta

[DonAK]

It's a tough act trying to balance being competitive whilst also trying to fix the finances.

What was the alternative anyway? Stink for four years while rebuilding the club's finances? Not make any signings and rely completely on La Masia while finishing 3rd or even 4th in La Liga every year?

I can assure you that any President/Board that went with such a strategy would be run out of town within two years. Have Laporta and this board been perfect? Far from it, and I have said so multiple times myself.

But it's easy to talk when you're on the outside looking in. No wonder this man got even fatter after taking over again. He probably almost had a heart attack seeing how our situation was far worse than even they were led to believe.

It's not going to happen anytime soon, but there might only be one solution to this mess and it might be going public unless the other candidates are going to donate hundreds of millions to the club out of their own pockets lol. Which probably isn't allowed anyway.

 

[serghei]

Good post. About Olmo's registration, we shouldn't expect any kind of help from La Liga even if it's within the rules. They hate our guts, so if they can burn us on this, they will probably.

 

[TheStig]

What was the alternative anyway?

Not buying Olmo, that's it.

Don't know why you are talking about signing anybody for 4 years, finishing 4th etc. that has nothing to do with it. The problem is only buying Olmo and Pau. If the fatty didin't buy Olmo there would be no problem.

 

[draconifire]

It’s already confirmed by LaLiga and RFEF. “The waiting till Saturday” is created by the media around Laporta to gain him time to come up with some speech, which will be aggressive enough towards someone else (Tebas, Perez, Global warming etc.) in a try to divert the attention away from him.

I agree with you. Laporta and the media are playing their usual politics.
But reading this Laliga statement:- "As of Dec. 31, Barcelona have not presented any alternative, in accordance with LaLiga's economic rules, that allows the registration of players from Jan.2",
I come to this conclusion and agree with some tweets saying Laliga simply wants proof of the funds being transferred to Barca as the VIP deal was made on December 30th.

Think Tebas doesn't want to get swindled by Fatporta again, like the Barca Vision deal Fatporta used before. He wants some proof.

I may be wrong. But thats why I want to wait till Saturday, cuz if they haven't registered him by then, they will officially release a statement on how the Laliga fucked us and other bullshit.

 

[Windhook]

Never been a fan of hysteria and mob mentality, because this is what Man Utd community is today. People already regretting they sacked ETH now they have Amorim.

Laporta should definitely resign if it's proven he completely fabricated the Nike and VIP boxes deals. Some deals come in installments, not the full amount is paid immediately, but in monthly periods. I believe the truth lies somewhere in that medium. La Liga will say "oh you got less in the bank than the full 130m in the contract. Rejected.". And that's what's likely to happen tomorrow, if it's reviewed at all. There are percentage details of installments in the 1:1 LFP rule book, which I didn't bother to memorize.

In other words Barca is trying to convince LFP its finances are secure long term, please give us another pass. Numerous La Liga clubs have voiced their concerns on LFP giving it to Barca.

 

[jamrock]

Tebas has told us repeatedly what he wants to see us do, which is tell a few of our best players.

Instead Laporta spit in his face and bought more players to try and improve the team.

They will not make anything easy for us, they hate the team that has brought so much success to the Spanish national team.

If I was in charge of Barcelona I would be looking at ways to join the French league.

 

[Barcaman]

If Olmo is not registered there is high chance he will resign. Then, I don't exclude the chance of Barca going public.

Interesting days ahead.

 

[ajnotkeith]

It's a tough act trying to balance being competitive whilst also trying to fix the finances.

What was the alternative anyway? Stink for four years while rebuilding the club's finances? Not make any signings and rely completely on La Masia while finishing 3rd or even 4th in La Liga every year?

I can assure you that any President/Board that went with such a strategy would be run out of town within two years. Have Laporta and this board been perfect? Far from it, and I have said so multiple times myself.

But it's easy to talk when you're on the outside looking in. No wonder this man got even fatter after taking over again. He probably almost had a heart attack seeing how our situation was far worse than even they were led to believe.

It's not going to happen anytime soon, but there might only be one solution to this mess and it might be going public unless the other candidates are going to donate hundreds of millions to the club out of their own pockets lol. Which probably isn't allowed anyway.

Olmo wasn't that crucial, if it was going to cause this much mayhem we should have left him.

Even if there was a small risk of this happening it was nowhere near worth it, its not like he is the best player in the world or something.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Never been a fan of hysteria and mob mentality, because this is what Man Utd community is today. People already regretting they sacked ETH now they have Amorim.

Laporta should definitely resign if it's proven he completely fabricated the Nike and VIP boxes deals. Some deals come in installments, not the full amount is paid immediately, but in monthly periods. I believe the truth lies somewhere in that medium. La Liga will say "oh you got less in the bank than the full 130m in the contract. Rejected.". And that's what's likely to happen tomorrow, if it's reviewed at all. There are percentage details of installments in the 1:1 LFP rule book, which I didn't bother to memorize.

In other words Barca is trying to convince LFP its finances are secure long term, please give us another pass. Numerous La Liga clubs have voiced their concerns on LFP giving it to Barca.

I expect Laporta to point the finger at Tebas over this, but we need to see the actual evidence of what happened here if it turns out we are unable to register him.

Not just going to take Laporta's word anymore for it and I doubt most of the fans will either.

If its proven LL fucked us over here or unfairly applied their rules, sure, but it doesn't feel like the case.

Other clubs are already complaining that we are being allowed too much time to register him and several other clubs had huge registration problems as well in the summer.

 

[Windhook]

I expect Laporta to point the finger at Tebas over this, but we need to see the actual evidence of what happened here if it turns out we are unable to register him.

Not just going to take Laporta's word anymore for it and I doubt most of the fans will either.

If its proven LL fucked us over here or unfairly applied their rules, sure, but it doesn't feel like the case.

Other clubs are already complaining that we are being allowed too much time to register him and several other clubs had huge registration problems as well in the summer.

My real take is the one I mentioned. Nor Laporta lied, nor there's a La Liga conspiracy to fuck us over. The rules are rules, the dude abides. I'm convinced we don't have the full amount of sponsorship money in the bank and that's the whole drama's been about.

Laporta saving skin on this fact... I dunno, not convincing enough. A vote might pass.

 

[DonAK]

Olmo wasn't that crucial, if it was going to cause this much mayhem we should have left him.

Even if there was a small risk of this happening it was nowhere near worth it, its not like he is the best player in the world or something.

I don’t disagree with you.

Talking about the situation in general though.

I won’t be surprised if we’ve yet to see the worst. Seem obvious the finances are even worse than we think.

 

[ajnotkeith]

I don’t disagree with you.

Talking about the situation in general though.

I won’t be surprised if we’ve yet to see the worst. Seem obvious the finances are even worse than we think.

We should've known that at the start though. I get the arguments from people here saying we had to stay competitive but what good is staying competitive for a few seasons and then self-destructing because we can't keep up with the rate of spending?

It may have been financially and competitively better to take the foot off the pedal for a few seasons and focus on developing the youth. It would also optically be very understandable for the fans and for other players joining us in the future, that we are taking a few seasons to sort our finances before returning to spend in the market again. Nobody would hold that against us.

If it turns out the finances are even worse than we think, it does beg the question of why Laporta chose this approach.

 

[serghei]

In defense of Laporta is the idea that the more time you spend in mediocrity, the harder it is to come back on top. And I believe that to be true. It doesn't work like an on / off switch.

If our youngsters don't have top players to play next to in these critical years, they are very likely to fail in reaching their potential. Models where you have kids playing next to kids with no leaders to learn from are likely to fail. There is an array of very serious complications if you become a B club.

We have going public as an option always. It is a capitalistic world out there and football is a mark of that these days. Would be far less of a tragedy than people believe.

 

[Don Juan Laporta Estruch]

You will have a very very difficult time trying to find a president who values the long term future of the club, when his re-election is incumbent upon short term success.

It's as simple as that really.

 

[Birdy]

It's a tough act trying to balance being competitive whilst also trying to fix the finances.

What was the alternative anyway? Stink for four years while rebuilding the club's finances? Not make any signings and rely completely on La Masia while finishing 3rd or even 4th in La Liga every year?

I can assure you that any President/Board that went with such a strategy would be run out of town within two years. Have Laporta and this board been perfect? Far from it, and I have said so multiple times myself.

But it's easy to talk when you're on the outside looking in. No wonder this man got even fatter after taking over again. He probably almost had a heart attack seeing how our situation was far worse than even they were led to believe.

It's not going to happen anytime soon, but there might only be one solution to this mess and it might be going public unless the other candidates are going to donate hundreds of millions to the club out of their own pockets lol. Which probably isn't allowed anyway.

You (plural, not only you DonAK) keep repeating 'what is the alternative' 'no one would accept 4 years of mediocrity, etc. etc.

I think you are completely wrong about it.
Everyone knows the financial situation of the club, and no one in 2021 held Laporta responsible for it.
IF Laporta came out in 2021, and said: 'we are just going to stabilize the wage structure until 2025/26, because that's how long it takes to get rid of contracts the previous criminal administration burdened the club with,
and in that period there will be a lot of La Masia and cheap/clever market opportunities only, BUT THEN we will be competitive again'
(think of more Aubameyang solutions, and less Lewa/Kounde/Gundo signings)

be sure most would have accepted the situation.
What is unacceptable is fabricating the truth, big empty words, and scrambling without plan
The fanbase wants honesty above all, and not big fat lies.