Jorge Sampaoli

[DonAK]

Something I didn't talk about but you for some reason felt the need to bring it.
Before the season (when no one talked about new manager) I thought Sevilla might actually have leaped A.Madrid as Spain's 3rd best team in terms of squad strength. I thought they are that good and with good league coach they will get that place,those were my expectations. And tbh no way would anyone should consider him getting 4th place more than the normal result. Not bad but not spectacular.

As for Valverde,he is 7th with Bilbao,at least 5 of the teams above him in the table have better squads and Sociedad squad is IMO almost as good anyway.I am not sure I really agree that he is under performing. And he has been successful in Bilbao for quit some time. Has good history with them that a normal season can be execused. Sampaoli is called gr8 for 1st half of the season isn't the same. I am not an advocate of Valverde and I still don't get your replay but yeah I think there is a double standards from the fans treating both coaches.

You surely don't believe Sevilla have a better squad than Atletico? Sevilla's best players are Nasri and N'Zonzi and Atletico got better players in every single position. Even Athletic got quite a good squad, however admittedly some inexperience as well.

This Sevilla squad is nowhere near that of Atletico. If they end 3rd than it is an achievement, a big one.

One team got the likes of Griezmann, Carrasco, Gameiro and Sevilla got Vietto, Ben Yedder? N'Zonzi and Iborra v Koke and Saul? Not to talk about a brick like Rami vs Godin.

 

[serghei]

There were more severe 'limitations', as you so euphemistically put it, in Leicester's team.

Leicester were lucky to go through. Sevilla deserved it more, but payed for their errors dearly.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Disappointing result for him and Sevilla. Just bottled it big time and need to get back at the drawing board to resolve their issues the last few weeks.

But you cannot fucking judge a coach on one game, seriously guys. That said, he will not come to Barcelona anyway, we'll get Valverde for sure or someone else. It's not like we have Pep, Conte, Ancelotti lining up to be our coach. The options were Valverde, Eusebio, Koeman and Sampaoli.

I guess Shakespeare is better than Ranieri now too? Ranieri lost, Shakespeare inspired Leicester to a 2-0 win and a resurgence in the Premier League!

Ranieri won PL with same team last season. Sampaoli is in his 1st season in Europe and he still didn't impress that much,beaten by 3 goals margin from RM in CDR,failed against far inferior team in CL,his team is on decline late in the season.if he bottled 3rd place then he hasn't done anything special for this team worth noting. Not bad by any mean but nothing gr8 either. There is a reason people wants bigger sample from him in Europe b4 thinking he is our savior

 

[TornAndFrayed]

Nasri Sevilla better get rid of him asap.

 

[serghei]

I'm sorry, but it's not Sampaoli vs Ancelotti here. It's Sampaoli versus guys who have way poorer results, like Valverde, Eusebio, Koeman. What did this guys do in Europe?

Sevilla being knocked out vs Leicester serving as a proof for why we shouldn't get Sampaoli is a stretch, considered it's 2 games we are talking about, and that Sevilla missed 2 pens and a lot of other chances in the first leg. Leicester are the Champions of England, beat both City and Liverpool this season. It was a close tie to begin with, and not as one sided as one might think.

I think Sevilla's squad is overrated myself.

 

[khaled_a_d]

You surely don't believe Sevilla have a better squad than Atletico? Sevilla's best players are Nasri and N'Zonzi and Atletico got better players in every single position. Even Athletic got quite a good squad, however admittedly some inexperience as well.

This Sevilla squad is nowhere near that of Atletico. If they end 3rd than it is an achievement, a big one.

One team got the likes of Griezmann, Carrasco, Gameiro and Sevilla got Vietto, Ben Yedder? N'Zonzi and Iborra v Koke and Saul? Not to talk about a brick like Rami vs Godin.

Well,I believed they well get 3rd place,may be not exactly superior squad but I thought they really improved their team and they were really underachieving to their abilities in Liga while AM actually are overachiever and I thought after 2nd CL final loss it will take a toll on them which is what actually happend.AM are no where near good as last season.
And I just said that 3rd place is achievement. 4th place isn't. Again not bad but not impressive by any mean

 

[DonAK]

Ranieri won PL with same team last season. Sampaoli is in his 1st season in Europe and he still didn't impress that much,beaten by 3 goals margin from RM,failed against fair inferior team in CL,his team is on decline late in the season.if he bottled 3rd place then he hasn't done anything special for this team worth noting. Not bad by any mean but nothing gr8 either. There is a reason people wants bigger sample from him in Europe b4 thinking he is our savior

I don't get this talk about a savior or 'The savior'. This is where there are double standards when it comes to judging a coach. No one has talked about a savior, rather about who the best choice is.

Some are talking like we got Pep, Conte, Ancelotti lined up.

Who are our options? Valverde, Unzue, Koeman, Eusebio and Sampaoli.

Valverde's experience in Europe hasn't exactly been stellar either although he is an experienced La Liga coach. Unzue was a head coach for one season in Segunda. Koeman is a different case while Eusebio is having his first season at top level with Real Sociedad.

People want a larger sample size from Sampaoli when the only sample size some other options like Unzue and Eusebio has is being a part of the Barcelona and Barcelona B staff one way or another, but still, no top level coaching.

 

[jamrock]

One games doesn't make or break a coach, even though I was never on the sampoli bandwagon.

But just going by this games, it shows everything why I didn't want him here, the space between the lines are way too open. It's like a ocean between, defense, midfield and attack. If he had tighten the lines they would have faired better.

Secondly he change his game somewhat, because​ he was up and away from home, exactly like Emery did. If you change you game, you give the opposition the advantage, because you have your players thinking, instead of using muscle memory, which means they​ will be a second slower than the opposition.

Get the durtmond coach, we won't but if we did, we wouldn't regret it, I'm 100% sure.

 

[TornAndFrayed]

Ranieri won PL with same team last season. Sampaoli is in his 1st season in Europe and he still didn't impress that much,beaten by 3 goals margin from RM in CDR,failed against far inferior team in CL,his team is on decline late in the season.if he bottled 3rd place then he hasn't done anything special for this team worth noting. Not bad by any mean but nothing gr8 either. There is a reason people wants bigger sample from him in Europe b4 thinking he is our savior

Would you have hired Ranieri if Lucho quit last summer ? I know I wouldn't.. Bringing in Ranieri makes no sense.

Sampa has got Sevilla to play attractive football, they remained extremely dangerous at home but massively improved away. Was unlucky tonight, with red card + missed pen.

 

[khaled_a_d]

I'm sorry, but it's not Sampaoli vs Ancelotti here. It's Sampaoli versus guys who have way poorer results, like Valverde, Eusebio, Koeman. What did this guys do in Europe?

Koeman reached CL QF with young Ajax team and beaten by 1 goal margin from Milan who eventually won the tournament. And yeah there is no gr8 candidate here.
But is people here acting like he is the best of unconvincing choices? b/c what I see is people acting like he will be the next best coach we have seen in past 2 decades after Pep

 

[FlaFCB]

Sevilla started to struggle before or after lucho said he'd leave at the end of the season? I'm wondering if all the speculation of Sampaoli being a candidate for Barça changed something for them internally.

 

[Raketa10]

Fuck, now I really dont know who would be good for us. Sampaoli showed some real weakness in copa and today agains mediocre Leicester and as I mentioned before 2x sent off in CL this season is just unacceptable.

 

[DonAK]

Look at Sevilla's squad, player-for-player, and say with a straight face that it is superior to Atletico and much superior to other teams like Athletic Bilbao, Real Sociedad, Villarreal.

If a coach who has no experience in Europe has come in, changed their style and identity, managed to get them winning away games again and make then finish 3rd, wouldn't that actually be a fantastic achievement?

 

[vigneshFCB]

Sevilla started to struggle before or after lucho said he'd leave at the end of the season? I'm wondering if all the speculation of Sampaoli being a candidate for Barça changed something for them internally.

Why didnt Sampaoli field Franco Vazquez?

 

[serghei]

Koeman reached CL QF with young Ajax team and beaten by 1 goal margin from Milan who eventually won the tournament. And yeah there is no gr8 candidate here.
But is people here acting like he is the best of unconvincing choices? b/c what I see is people acting like he will be the next best coach we have seen in past 2 decades after Pep

He won the Copa America with Chile. His credentials are very good. Success story with Chile, came in La Liga and has already improved Sevilla in his first year. Now, imo, this Sevilla side has a limitation, that was visible in this tie vs Leicester.

Last season Sevilla couldn't win a single away game in La Liga. Now we're talking about them not being in the last 8 in CL like it's a failure. It's not. It's a success. They'll probably end up on CL spots in La Liga. 3rd or 4th. Also a massive improvement from last season.