remember that we don't play in the bpl, the most watched league in the world. even real madrid got a relatively shit deal with fly emirates. maybe qatar was the best option on the table, and they figured if they are selling out anyway then who cares about the image of the sponsor and just get as much money as possible.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Do you guys think the UAE, which Fly Emirates hails from, is better?
did some research and they are owned by emirates group, which is owned by the government. so if uae government did some bad things then the same logic which is used to criticise barca can be used to criticise real madrid and every other club with fly emirates as their sponsor.
the logic used against barca is that qatar airways is owned by qatar government, and qatar does some questionable things according to some people, therefore barcelona is bad for ''endorsing'' it.
the logic used against barca is that qatar airways is owned by qatar government, and qatar does some questionable things according to some people, therefore barcelona is bad for ''endorsing'' it.
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Flavia
Guest
I doubt it. There were other people interests at stake, not only the club's.
They pay better.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Nope ,UAE does it in a much cleaner way at least in front of the media
Zinedinho
New member
I think the people who criticise the Qatar deal are mostly Barça supporters. Usually, the level of criticism at Madrid is much lower.
Yeah, I think wearing "Fly Emirates" is morally about the same level.
Zinedinho
New member
But if you take a look at their politics, they're not substantially different. Media is media. According to the media, Justin Bieber is more important than Mozart.
TornAndFrayed
Banned
Nah, khaled has a point, it's mostly about image here, not about actually being good samaritans.
That bieber comparison is quite absurd tbh.
That bieber comparison is quite absurd tbh.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
UAE are in the same boat as Qatar, but they are much better as in they're not as bad or ruthless or bigoted(talking about Gov's).
Qatar is seen as the black sheep of the GCC. That should tell you everything. They're also in focus because of Qatar 2022 though, so their image has taken quite a dump because of that too, especially because of that.
Agree.
That's the worst comparison I've seen for some time now. Media doesn't say Bieber is better or more important than Mozart. If anyone then Fangirls and Fanboys does(most of them probably doesn't even know who Mozart is)
Qatar is seen as the black sheep of the GCC. That should tell you everything. They're also in focus because of Qatar 2022 though, so their image has taken quite a dump because of that too, especially because of that.
Agree.
That's the worst comparison I've seen for some time now. Media doesn't say Bieber is better or more important than Mozart. If anyone then Fangirls and Fanboys does(most of them probably doesn't even know who Mozart is)
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King5Puyi
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Funny seeing you guys putting Qatar and UAE in the same boat.
Emirates is owned by the Dubai Govt, Etihad owned by Abudhabi.
Now Dubai has had bad press,but things are better managed and never steeped down to the level of Doha as a whole. We have had reports of Prostitution rings and so on, but are seen as a Golden land especially in the west.
Qatars mistake is trying to pace things up to catch up on the almost decade long absence of spot light grabbed by Dubai, which inturn has lead to disasters their experience hasnt been able to handle. Money isnt everything afterall.
Now onto the topic, Emirates wont pay as much as Qatar. Dubai have sold almost everything to the Abudhabi Govt who sit on trillions worth of oil deposit. Dubais GDP from oil constitues lesser than 5%. They even sold the Burj Dubai the day before its unveiling, naming it Burj Khalifa, Khalifa being the ruler of UAE and AbuDhabi. So they can never afford to pay astronomical fee's for sponorships when they are already globally well known. Barça doesnt really bring a lot to their table in financial point of view and Qatar Airways on the other hand has roped in reputation and major credibility for something they concern the least of their issues, Money.
Emirates is owned by the Dubai Govt, Etihad owned by Abudhabi.
Now Dubai has had bad press,but things are better managed and never steeped down to the level of Doha as a whole. We have had reports of Prostitution rings and so on, but are seen as a Golden land especially in the west.
Qatars mistake is trying to pace things up to catch up on the almost decade long absence of spot light grabbed by Dubai, which inturn has lead to disasters their experience hasnt been able to handle. Money isnt everything afterall.
Now onto the topic, Emirates wont pay as much as Qatar. Dubai have sold almost everything to the Abudhabi Govt who sit on trillions worth of oil deposit. Dubais GDP from oil constitues lesser than 5%. They even sold the Burj Dubai the day before its unveiling, naming it Burj Khalifa, Khalifa being the ruler of UAE and AbuDhabi. So they can never afford to pay astronomical fee's for sponorships when they are already globally well known. Barça doesnt really bring a lot to their table in financial point of view and Qatar Airways on the other hand has roped in reputation and major credibility for something they concern the least of their issues, Money.
Zinedinho
New member
I wasn't disagreeing with him. In fact, that was not intended as a comparison, so it's possible you have misinterpreted what I said. What do you think I'm comparing here? Bieber and Mozart is just an example to illustrate a point that I think is obvious:
He said that the UAE had a better image at least in front of the media, and I was expanding on that point with this example that I threw casually illustrating that the media in general doesn't impartially dedicate the same amount of time to everything that's going on in the world.
Being less in the spotlight doesn't mean being less serious or less significant.
You may disagree, but I don't think my reasoning is absurd.
And it seems to me that the typical things Qatar is criticised for are shared by the UAE. They both have issues with rights, especially for women, flogging, stoning or torture to dissidents. Ok, maybe the UAE is better managed than Qatar, but I would say the people who criticise Barça's relationship with Qatar are not comparing at that level of detail. Just a basic Human Rights picture, and they fail similarly.
What do you think I'm comparing, exactly? You're welcome to disagree, but first you'd have to understand what I said. You're inferring too much from my words and are jumping to conclusions about things I haven't said.
You could've asked what I meant exactly, don't you think? I mean, if something sounds very stupid, maybe that's because there's another way to interpret it that you still haven't tried.
Anyway, I expanded on what I meant in response to TornAndFrayed. To sum up, I'm not referring to the quality, but the quantity of time exposed to the media. I hope this all helps clarify things.
Edit: Re-reading my post, I think it's my fault. I meant exposure, but didn't say it explicitly. Apologies to both of you.
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Alarcón
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Justin Bieber is more important than Mozart... whether you like that or not is not irrelevant
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