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mc_lovin

Senior Member
I haven't watched Emerson lately, certainly not after the restart of football but last season and earlier this season when I was following Real Betis pretty closely he didn't strike me as that good at all. He is tall, physical and has the ability to drive the ball forward but he wasn't good at making those crosses and inward passes when he was in an advanced position and he was bumbling defensively. Not too promising in my opinion. Of course he could improve later.

He looks more exciting than Reguilon and Odriozola thats for sure. Hakimi is the best of the bunch, but if Emerson gets more refined (as hes very raw) he could be good. Hes already very decisive in the final 3rd.

I think our board wants immediate impact to make the best out of the last couple of years of Messi's career and I can certainly understand where they are coming from, however I'd rather buy more younger players and start rebuilding and transitioning while Messi is still here and start building the team up (I think in some aspects one can argue we are doing that, it is just that we are still extremely dependent on Messi and without him we don't know how to play) and get them into a groove and go trophyless for a couple of seasons than going for immediate impact and only start thinking about replenishing the squad after Messi is officially gone. I think having Messi right now is both a blessing and a curse (certainly a real blessing if we look at his whole tenure with us) and we are just kicking the can down the road.


I dont think our idea was that wrong, we just identified the two worst possible top targets (Griezmann and Coutinho). Apart from those two I completely stand behind our transfer policy.
 
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te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
Yh I'm doing this off the top of my head and no loanees stood out that I can remember. Todibo was slow AF against Dortmund and that's all I remember. Trincao played well in the one game I've watched last week, but nothing anyone would rave about. Does he play U20s? Don't know what warrants Vini or Rodrygo being equated to him or Pedri.

Damn, didn't even know Emerson was yours. He's good from what I've seen. I'd bin Semedo and play him for sure.

Bit unfair to compare Trincao to Vinicius (who still can?t score to save his life) and Rodrygo because the latter two play for Madrid and Trincao for Braga. Comparisons will be more apt next season. Fati has shown more promise than both of the Brazilians while playing less anyway.
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
I forgot about Jovic & Militao as well. For all their planning, Madrid?s signings have been meh. As have ours. The problem is we keep splashing 100m+ on one player that flops every year while Madrid spent only on Hazard (who also does not look that good so far.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
I think our board wants immediate impact to make the best out of the last couple of years of Messi's career and I can certainly understand where they are coming from, however I'd rather buy more younger players and start rebuilding and transitioning while Messi is still here and start building the team up (I think in some aspects one can argue we are doing that, it is just that we are still extremely dependent on Messi and without him we don't know how to play) and get them into a groove and go trophyless for a couple of seasons than going for immediate impact and only start thinking about replenishing the squad after Messi is officially gone. I think having Messi right now is both a blessing and a curse (certainly a real blessing if we look at his whole tenure with us) and we are just kicking the can down the road.


One last thing: we cant just play talents for two years and after that they are magically worldclass. Thats not how this stuff usually works.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
He looks more exciting than Reguilon and Odriozola thats for sure. Hakimi is the best of the bunch, but if Emerson gets more refined (as hes very raw) he could be good. Hes already very decisive in the final 3rd.

My impression of him is quite the opposite, I think one of Emerson's biggest problems offensively is not making the right decision with regard to what to do with the ball when he is in an advanced position. Either that or his ability to pass is just not good enough. That said, my impression of him could be a bit outdated.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
One last thing: we cant just play talents for two years and after that they are magically worldclass. Thats not how this stuff usually works.

True. However, what do we do when Messi is all of sudden gone and we don't know how to play anymore? Nobody knows what to do offensively as they don't have Messi to pass the ball to. More importantly, do we have the players to sustain the top level (not necessarily wining the league but at least maintaining the top three spot in La Liga)? Nearly all of the established players we bought, including Griezmann will be quite old by then.

My point is, let's not buy players because they are deemed the best helpers of Messi to help us win trophies right now, let's buy players with the mindset that they have the potential to help us reinvigorate ourselves once Messi is gone.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
I forgot about Jovic & Militao as well. For all their planning, Madrid?s signings have been meh.

What is there to forget? Both played successfully in CL and EL, unlike many of the others.

Signings have not been meh if they haven't played much and several are in their 1st or 2nd season.

Didn?t say they were bad players. Meant that they failed at Madrid.

That?s right, two LBs, two RBs, two LWs. Only one of every pair makes it as a starter, and the Brazilians have Hazard playing in their main position (LW).

You have a funny definition of failure my man.

It is not a failure to be 2nd fiddle to GOAT caliber players.
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
What is there to forget? Both played successfully in CL and EL, unlike many of the others.

Signings have not been meh if they haven't played much and several are in their 1st or 2nd season.



You have a funny definition of failure my man.

It is not a failure to be 2nd fiddle to GOAT caliber players.

I meant that they failed to impress for Madrid and were consequently sold. Just as Paco or Alexis did for Barca and later bossed it for Dortmund and Arsenal respectively, for example. Different calibers. Of course they are still very good players that are fun to watch too.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Global pandemic - Luft is barely fazed.

RM buys ANYONE - Luft ?Barca is doomed and RM future is filled with CLs.?

I?ve not seen a more predictable/tiresome pattern
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Global pandemic - Luft is barely fazed.

RM buys ANYONE - Luft ?Barca is doomed and RM future is filled with CLs.?

I?ve not seen a more predictable/tiresome pattern

Global pandemic, not much we can do and discuss more than what we have done already.

Real Madrid buying anyone? If you don't see that they have a clear vision and plan to invest in and stock up young players in multiple positions, I don't know if there is anything anyone can do to help you realize that. Never said their future is filled with CL's, just saying it does appear much brighter than ours at least on paper.

We can keep burying our heads in the sands and pretend everything is just fine. Whatever makes you guys happy, I envy you.
 

wisconsincule

Senior Member
I cannot wait until this snake is gone.

Oh look we are reporting a massive profit off of this shady Arthur deal but the club is still massively in debt because of dumb decisions I have made. GTFO.
 

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